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Bill: Pharmacy Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2421
Description[?]:
| This law will partially pay for all citizens drugs and will give pay more for citizens with low or no income. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Pharmaceutical drugs policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the cost of pharmaceutical drugs for people on low incomes.
Current: The government pays for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs.
Proposed: The government pays partially for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs, and pays entirely for those of low income citizens.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:24:19, June 28, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | It is amusing how this proposal says "The government pays" when it should really say "The people are forced to pay". In any free society, the bottom line should be if you need something, you pay for it yourself. |
| Date | 22:05:10, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | The bottom line is , that not all people are rich and can afford their medicine did that ever cross your mind? |
| Date | 02:02:46, June 29, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | It did; but at the end of the day, does that give you the right to take money from other citizens because some are poors. The answer to that question, form our point of view, is no. These citizens worked hard for their money, and for the government to come in and steal it because other citizens are not as them is just plain wrong. |
| Date | 01:22:04, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | Neither is taxing and not giving neccesary medicine or healthcare or a retirement to people who cannnot even make enough to put food on their table. Not giving a man who is in poverty because he was a hard working man his whole life and he supported his family and children and when he got old his country did'nt have a pension system and he worked all his life and found out that he had cancer and couldn't have it treated because his country didn't give him the neccesary medicine to fight the diesease and he could'nt afford the medicine, this act is not just not right, this act is a human right abuse.You say poors like there not even human, and how can you sit there and say that something like that its wrong for the government to steal from the people who are making millions of dollars a year? What do you care about more, a life or money and greed? |
| Date | 02:21:04, July 01, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | What has a public pension scheme got to do with this bill? In any case, you act like a public pension is free- working people have to pay through national insurance contributions. So why not let them keep that money and save for their own retirement, or spend the money on whatever else they want? At least then the government doesnt have to force them to do anything. Liberty is behind our reasoning for disagreeing with this bill. If we stop forcing people to pay extra tax, people can choose whether to get health insurance or not. And we dont have to take money from people who, quite frankly, may not care about the welfare of this man. If they do, they can give to a charity which helps to fund health care for poorer citizens. Hell, with the extra money people will have in their pocket at the end of the week, donations to such charities is sure to dramatically increase. |
| Date | 02:35:42, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | Your party is full of rich snobby people who stick only to ideology and don't think about what's obviously right and what's obviously wrong. Do you actually think that all people are gonna give dontations? I have an idea why don't we have mandatory donations, oh I think that we already have those, they're called taxes for our liberarian crowd. |
| Date | 02:42:53, July 01, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | We will not debate with a party which has nothing better to than to insult our members. Please let us stick to the issue at hand. We do think people will give charitable donations, because they do so now. These same people, having more money since we arent taking it, will naturally have more to give. Therefore, charitable donations will increase. |
| Date | 03:40:55, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | We have debated the issue and what has and what will your party do to promote and advance humanity for the favor of humanity instead of a few? You do not understand anything, people will not pay more charity at all there are some people in the world that are mean hearted and won't even give any charity even if there is not any taxes. |
| Date | 13:10:14, July 01, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | We are not claiming that the people who at the minute give nothing to charity will start giving. What we are saying is that people who already give to charity right now will give more, because they have more money to give. Thats just common sense. Its not the governments job to "promote humanity", whatever that means, we'll trust the people to do that for themselves. |
| Date | 16:14:08, July 01, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | I don't know what planet you've been living on lately, but you think that through themselves humans can promote humanity without guidance, that's like putting a blind man in a field and telling him to build himself a house. |
| Date | 16:46:11, July 01, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Pharmacy Act |
| Message | Humanity has always lead itself- government control of things is not the natural order, its artificial. How low is the SDP's confidence in our citizens if they do not believe people can advance themselves? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 45 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 110 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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