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Bill: Reform of the Monarchy
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Republics Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2424
Description[?]:
| The URP is open to negotiations with all parties on this issue. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:24:40, June 29, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | Perhaps we could preserve the monarch who would retain the title of head of state, but we could could elect a viceroy who executes the power of head of state? We could keep the name of the nation the same, motto the same, region names the same. Elect a head of state with a title like 'Viceroy of HRH King Kardovan.' |
| Date | 07:55:30, June 30, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | The only problem is that it will say our head of state is not the king. However, URP never wanted him beheaded, so we could support his continuation as symbolic head of state (which he is already) , but the addition of a viceroy would allow the positive aspects of a republic the URP has advocated for many years, do any other parties have thoughts? |
| Date | 19:53:29, June 30, 2007 CET |
From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | It is an interesting proposal put forward by the URP, but we feel that it is more trouble than it is worth. What do we get out of it? Extra elections for head of state, is it really worth all that messing around? |
| Date | 00:24:33, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | Democrats | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | Aye, this is the sort of thing that at the very least would take the best part of a decade to debate properly. |
| Date | 01:44:36, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | Democrats | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | Aye, your proposal has merits, perhaps your ideas could work, with the addition of a chnage to the motto, stating that Kardovan in the King, as happened in other nations in recent years, Rildanor and Luthori, although I am not sure if either still operates such a policy. |
| Date | 01:50:07, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | I'm unsure why a change of motto would be necessary. The URP is willing to support the monarchy under an altered framework. As I understand it, although you may want to check on this, the title of HoS cannot be change w/o 2/3 majority. So the king will be just as secure in his office as he is today. |
| Date | 18:47:41, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | We could get behind this idea, but it will take much langer to hammer out the details. We must vote it down now, in order for the next version to be more fully fleshed out by all the parties. |
| Date | 21:23:35, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | Once again everyone doesn't like the details? How about some real constructive criticism. Point out what needs to be changed please. |
| Date | 21:26:00, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | Democrats | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | What would be the Viceroy's actual role? If we are to have a Head of State, and a seperate Head of Government, what is the Viceroys job? As it can't be anything important we see there is no real need to have them elected by the general population. |
| Date | 21:32:37, July 02, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | This proposal would give the head of state the power to propose cabinets. The king would remain head of state, but the viceroy would be the one who actually used this new power. |
| Date | 03:32:01, July 05, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | I actually wonder what the point of electing a head of state would be if he had no power. that's why i think it's necessary to allow him to propose cabinets. There really is no other options such as dismiss a government, call for new elections, etc. |
| Date | 03:34:53, July 05, 2007 CET |
From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | FL actually prefers voting "no" without any debate on this. We're immensly entertained that urp is actually ASKING for criticism. Also, we enjoy irony a great deal. Its not fun when people just say "we don't support this" and don't even pretend to give a damn about working with everyone else, does it? |
| Date | 03:53:19, July 05, 2007 CET |
From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform of the Monarchy | | Message | duh.... I don't know what you're talking about. I've been seeking comment from other parties for years on this issue, but there seems to be no response to the debate until I put it up for a vote at which point everyone condemns the URP for putting it up for a vote without debate.
FL's hypocrisy knows no bounds. After my own party they put more bills up for a vote without a debate than any other party. At least the URP can admit it doesn't care for debate. FL can simply vote no if it desires, and not debate. If this is truly the case than I suggest they post no more comments in this debate or any future debate concerning the reform of the Head of State. |
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| yes | Total Seats: 279 |
| no | Total Seats: 320 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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