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Bill: Safe schools
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2093
Description[?]:
| Being inside a school building does not make abuse acceptable. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Discipline levels are set by schools.
Current: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Proposed: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:56:47, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | And if a student strikes a teacher, what then? What if the only form of discipline a student respects is physical? Will you give free license to that one student to destroy the education of every other student in their class? At current the school sets the rules. This gives choice over this issue to the parents. Once again you are trying to limit the choices to those that you would make. Stop being authoritarian. |
| Date | 02:17:49, August 07, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | "At current the school sets the rules. This gives choice over this issue to the parents. Once again you are trying to limit the choices to those that you would make. " A public school system does not give any choice to the parents, unless they change address. This law was passed in a bill that included private schooling. We are unsure of our policy on this matter, when public schools are involved... "And if a student strikes a teacher, what then?" What indeed...There isnt much that can be done... |
| Date | 05:13:05, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | "Stop being authoritarian." a parliamentary page has been sent across the aisle carrying two tickets to The Irony Extravaganza for each member of the ASP caucus. |
| Date | 06:10:03, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | Completely Supported. I tried to pass this a while back but it didnt get through. |
| Date | 16:44:45, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | "a parliamentary page has been sent across the aisle carrying two tickets to The Irony Extravaganza for each member of the ASP caucus." You are attempting to make all the decisions, regardless of what the schools/parents want. You are telling them that YOU know how to raise their children better than they do, that YOU should be able to make the decisions for them about what is the best way to raise their child. If that isn't an authoritarian attitude, what is? |
| Date | 19:27:30, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | why? Nothing in this law prevents parents from hititng their children, or indeed abusing them violently if they want to. It just prevents teachers from beating children. They can still give children detentions, force them to run laps, give them hard labor tasks, and any other form of non-violent punishment. |
| Date | 19:50:40, August 08, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | So the concern then is not for the safety and health of the children. If a six year old can be sent to do hard labour, but not receive a gentle but clear reminding tap that some behaviour is wrong. A seven year old can be forced to sit still and listen to a monologue on the highly disputable benefits of communism, but can not be caught by the ear to prevent her from running in front of a steamroller. This is not just authoritarianism, it is authoritarianism of the worst kind, wherein one group can require certain behaviour from chilçdren and can use physical and mental torture to achieve their aims, but any other group that tries to require standards of behaviour and looks to teach thoise by traditionbal and natural means is branded totalitarian and damaging to the welfare of the child. It has become very clear now that the Green Advantage party is ideological in the sense that the ideology is all that matters, the facts, the reality, teh effects, the problems, solutions, the desires of the people, the concept of a united nation; none of these matter at all. So go ahead and sacrifice our future citizens physical, mental and social wellbeing to your ungrounded ideology. We will not support you in this, and we ask that other parties in this house consider well the implications of the presentation by GA, and also vote against this measure. |
| Date | 02:44:10, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | There goes the future of our nation. |
| Date | 02:53:23, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Safe schools |
| Message | the future of our nation does not depend on beating children. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 301 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 149 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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