We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage
Details
Submitted by[?]: I need to make new party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2429
Description[?]:
A minimum wage should be introduced for our countrys workers. Now I know most people would think having a minimum wage would hurt companys. But the minimum wage Im putting forward isnt so high but it shows we are doing something and its a start to help Baltusias poverty. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:00:33, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | I would vote on it if there were a provision to reduce the industry tax :) |
Date | 03:05:33, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | I agree with the Gazelle Party. |
Date | 04:15:40, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | I'm just going down stairs to see if hell has frozen over because this is actually a sensible bill. "I would vote on it if there were a provision to reduce the industry tax :)" Yeah because its not low enough already. It used to be 30% and we did fine. You realise that if we shift the burden off industry, it goes onto the citizenry? (OOC: At least it would if the budget worked properly) |
Date | 04:15:43, July 15, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | So yu want me to add a article reducig industry tax frm 15 to 10? Confirm and Ill do it |
Date | 06:26:05, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | Confirm "You realise that if we shift the burden off industry, it goes onto the citizenry? (OOC: At least it would if the budget worked properly)" Yeah, but since we're setting minimum wage we'll still be improving the general welfare. We'll be lessening the amount the feds get and increasing the amount low-level workers get. If 10% isn't enough, maybe we need to cut spending. ....and 30%? That's crazy. |
Date | 09:08:11, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | The median corporate tax rate amongst OECD nations is 30%. The US runs at 35%. Japan is the only OECD nation with a higher corporate tax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax). So, no, its not crazy. Do some research. "We'll be lessening the amount the feds get " Why is this a good thing? |
Date | 14:07:34, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Free Democrats | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | But... The Irish economic miracle was accomplished when corp tax was droped to 12.5%. |
Date | 02:07:27, July 16, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | Personally I believe corp tax is fine... I think it should be a seperate bill... If we all agree a Minimum wage should be established then Ill put this into vote... Corporation T will be something else |
Date | 06:30:24, July 16, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | "But... The Irish economic miracle was accomplished when corp tax was droped to 12.5%." So? Japan didn't have corporate tax when it shifted from an isolationist agrarian backwater to one of the world's great powers at the beginning of the 20th century. Its a bit simplistic to say that a nation's economic progress, as impressive as it may be, is entirely dependent on its corporate tax rate. What about China? No (real) corporations, strict socialist control and a 9% growth rate. Or mildly socialist India? They're still going strong. |
Date | 06:45:28, July 16, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | That and you'll notice that with the exception of Ireland and Iceland (and various nations that have some different corporate tax brackets), the nations that have flat corporate tax rates on the level you're discussing are generally have less than first world living standards. Take 9% Montenegro for instance. Or 18% Uzbekistan. What about 15% Mauritius? |
Date | 11:39:14, July 16, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | good start... |
Date | 18:27:19, July 16, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | The People tha vote agaisnt the bill never explain them selves... Conservative party I said That The Corporate tax bill should be seperate from this one if thats why your not voting. All people deserve a decent and set minimum wage to live off of. |
Date | 01:46:11, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the UIF Bill XIII: Minimum Wage |
Message | Don't hate the playa, hate the game fool! |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 36 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 164 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
Random fact: "Doxxing", or the publishing of personally identifiable information about another player without permission, is forbidden. |
Random quote: "They can call us communists and fascists all they want but, their words are of a hollow ring with the blood of innocence at their feet." - Mathew Jameson, former Hutorian politician |