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Bill: Religion Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Plutocratic Utopian Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2433
Description[?]:
| Religious organizations have too large a role in the daily lives of our constituents. The Plutocratic Utopian Front would like to reduce their influence. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Proposed: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:54:42, July 21, 2007 CET | From |  Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | Never! |
| Date | 18:36:16, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Gao-Showa Imperial Party | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | This is a disgusting attack ont he religious freedoms that the people and faiths of this nation enjoy. We will fight tooth and nail to stop any such policy taking effect. |
| Date | 23:12:00, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | We are in favor, a state should be religion free, otherwise it cannot guarantee equality of all its citizens. |
| Date | 23:13:10, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | Never, in our entire time in Hulstia and Gao-Soto, have we seen such a blatant attack on the civil liberties of this nation's citizens since the Un-Hulstrian Activites Act. |
| Date | 23:34:16, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Plutocratic Utopian Front | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | The intention of this bill is to increase the liberty of our people! Religious forces have had to much import in our nation. The reduction of religious influence may at first require limiting freedoms, but in the end our people will realize the shackling influence the churches and temples have had on them. |
| Date | 00:00:44, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | Cheers Cheers |
| Date | 02:23:34, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Gao-Showa Imperial Party | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | My people have had to suffer the destruction of our temples, our history, our culture for centuries in the name of either violent Christianity or state secularism. The purpose of this bill and all like it are clear, to crush the culture of the peoples who call this land their own and to impose a foul vision upon them, to force them to conform to one mans ideal of how the people of this nation should live, how they should behave. You don't intend to curb "religious influence" you intend to destroy it! Well we will not stand for it! By closing religious schools and preventing public preaching you are destroying peoples freedom to worship! In my religion open public festivals are an important part of worship and great cultural events yet they clearly promote the Shinto and the Buddhist faiths so your religious police would shut them down and arrest the attendees. We will fight and fight and fight for our right and everyone else's right to worship freely and to openly practice our culture and traditions. |
| Date | 04:02:12, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | LONG LIVE FREEDOM! LONG LIVE RELIGION! LONG LIVE DESERET! |
| Date | 15:33:09, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Plutocratic Utopian Front | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | The people will be free to pursue their religion in their places of worship, but their involvement in our education system is not necessary and dangerous. They have too much power to mold the minds of our nations future. They have too large a presence in our people's daily life. The Plutocratic Utopian Front feels strongly about this issue, and will put this bill to the vote, even though it appears to lack enough popular support to pass. |
| Date | 19:21:19, July 22, 2007 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the Religion Bill |
| Message | A state should not destroy religion! Never! But is it not ridiculous that there should be a special education system where our children are learned something different. To make this a strong nation, all the children should be thought the same, at least in school time. Of course religious education is not forbidden (Sunday schools) but when children are at a normal school they should learn important information that will help them to develop themselves and make themselves usefull for the society, and should be made ready to have the education that will help them in live to make money and support themselves. We are not saying that religion education is not important, it can form an individual, but we would like to see that at school, children are only learned the information they need to survive in society. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 197 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 303 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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