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Bill: This is What Colleges Are For!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partisans And Artisans League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2093
Description[?]:
Work makes a man. Prisoners work all day so they have no time for the "education" plan. The best things they will come out of prison with, are a strong muscles! Beluzia was built from the might of its men folk! Once again it shall be built by ex-cons returning to the world to labour hard and make our nation great! They will work where ever the call for a strapping lad rings out! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:24:47, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | We shall oppose this resolution, and are further dissapointed by the lack of reason displayed by the Partisans And Artisans League, in wishing to revoke programmes that have been so succesful in re-integrating prisoners into society in the past. |
Date | 20:16:10, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | They aren't successful. All that happens is you end up with educated criminals and that can only lead to more trouble. The only way to stop reoffenders is a change of heart and this doesn't come from government policies but from Beluzians. Smaller government = Bigger voice of the people! |
Date | 20:23:53, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | Education improves the chances of criminals getting normal jobs, which reduces crime. Teaching convicted inmates a healthy work ethic, as well as mental change, is the way forward. Simply locking people up and doing nothing will not improve them. |
Date | 20:29:18, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | Yes but it does keep them off the streets. Punishment not rehabilitation! |
Date | 20:49:42, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Social-Liberal Party | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | How does educating people *in prison* and keeping people in prison without education make a difference? In both cases, the inmates are not on the streets. Punishment AND rehabilitation! |
Date | 22:18:35, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | More punishment though... |
Date | 22:19:17, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | The rehabilitation is drug clinics, councillors etc not education |
Date | 22:20:10, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | Eye never goot an edukashun and it did'ent doe me anni harme... |
Date | 00:38:27, August 10, 2005 CET | From | Catholic Workers Movement | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | If there is no education plan in prison, then they will spend all their time learning how to better commit crimes. Criminals can redeem themselves, and education helps make that possible. |
Date | 02:27:48, August 10, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the This is What Colleges Are For! |
Message | I say we empty all a prisons! Kill the wicked, and enslave all meritous miscreants! I've plenty of deck swabbin' to do, yaaar... |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 63 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 177 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 60 |
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