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Bill: Gated Communities Bill

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Beluzian Republican Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2435

Description^[?]:

has to be implemented...

Proposal^[?] to change The government's policy concerning gated communities.

Old value:: No gated communities are allowed.

Current: Both the government and the private sector can set up gated communities.

Proposed: Both the government and the private sector can set up gated communities.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	18:16:14, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Constitutional Monarchy Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	Why should our people hide behind walls and fences? what do they have to hide from us? The State must have access to the people at all times.

Date	18:27:03, July 27, 2007 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	Never!!!!!!!!!!!! The People are ready when you try it! From the distinctive anti-aircraft missile batteries atop our bunkers to the artillery walls which line our protective barriers, only a madcap fool would dare assault the People in their myriad housing bunkers. God forbid you manage to enter one of our vaulted doorways, where the kennels of assault K-9's and their axe-wielding simian riders dwell! Explore still further and you may be subject to all manner of bio-chemical experimentation and (if you are lucky) eventually consumption by hordes of Hogzilla!! http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/big_hog_hogzilla_pig_hunting_biggest.jpg

Date	18:34:48, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Constitutional Monarchy Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	I never said that partys were not allowed to fortify themselves... the Whigs have defended Ripley Castle for decades now. The Ancient castle will always be defended... this is so that we can stop traitors and revolutionaries from destroying our nation.

Date	19:14:15, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Beluzian Republican Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	Whigs it's illegal for you to do that as well under this law.

Date	19:21:53, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Constitutional Monarchy Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	fine we agree.

Date	20:56:27, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Beluzian Workers Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	From Wikipedia: "In its modern form, a gated community is a form of residential community sometimes characterised by a closed perimeter of walls and fences, but always containing controlled entrances for pedestrians, bicycles, and automobiles. Gated communities usually consist of small residential streets and include various amenities. For smaller communities this may be only a park or other common area. For larger communities, it may be possible for residents to stay within the community for most day-to-day activities. Gated communities are a type of common interest development, but are distinct from intentional communities." Going by this definition, the Liberal Party would tend to believe that while gated communities are outlawed, the right to private property would still allow single property units the right to install security fortifications (walls, gatehouses, etc.). This would allow secured office buildings and residences, just not secured office parks (industrial estates) or gated residential communities (with the possible exception of condominum apartment buildings). Would the Justice Minister please clarify for Parliament what a definition we should be using?

Date	21:08:58, July 27, 2007 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	Justice minister Krishna Evola would point out that under current law no fortifications of private or public property are technically allowed. . Being that much of Beluzia is fortified, and current law requires that "No new buildings may be constructed unless they feature provisions for Civil Defence." this would have been impossible to enforce, and most construction has been going on outside the law in recent months, causing a great deal of trouble for law abiding businesses. The People, who have always operated both inside and outside of the law, possess an sustainable supply of self-manufactured munitions and fortifications.

Date	21:10:24, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Constitutional Monarchy Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	The Whigs have several fortified positions accross the nation, notably our Head Quarters at Ripley Castle.

Date	21:13:03, July 27, 2007 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	If there is to be some definition of "gated community" peculiar to Beluzia, it would have to be articulated in a passing bill, or by the minister of the department in question. Beluzia's justice minister Krishna Evola has determined the current law to be impractical to implement, and has instructed his judiciary subordinates to engage in "don't ask, don't tell" tactics regarding this indiscreet particular.

Date	21:14:41, July 27, 2007 CET
From	People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	The liberal party is sternly requested to join Beluzia in allowing the free construction of fortified communities thruout Beluzia.

Date	21:26:03, July 27, 2007 CET
From	Constitutional Monarchy Party
To	Debating the Gated Communities Bill
Message	We must save ourselves from those viscous republicans who attacked us in the past.

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yes

Total Seats: 212

Total Seats: 448

abstain

Total Seats: 90

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