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Bill: Smoking Legalization Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchist Liberation Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2437
Description[?]:
| In this great nation, we have a certain amount of pride for the civil liberties afforded to our citizens. We can look to other nations and think ourselves somewhat more progressive, as we allow such freedoms as women and homosexuals in the military, the use of cannabis, and euthanasia. We trust our citizens to make proper choices, yet we do not allow a market for tobacco in this country. Why is this? Not only would tobacco deepen our economy, but it is, for many, a relaxing, social habit. Certainly we can make our citizens aware of the potential dangers, but in this nation, how can we allow ourselves to make such decisions for our populous? I propose we move decision-making on this matter towards local governments. These smaller cells will better understand the particular needs of their community, while allowing smoking to flourish in areas where it is most desired. Furthermore, the economic benefits will almost assuredly be further-spread than the actual habit of smoking, as even places where smoking is banned can still operate tobacco industries for those places it is in demand. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is prohibited.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Proposed: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: The sale of tobacco products is prohibited.
Current: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:15:26, July 31, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | its because smoking is EXREMELY addictive and when ppl fail down to needing welfare(ie become poor) they often spend more on tobacco then they can afford. |
| Date | 21:42:14, July 31, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | and people in my opinon alone arem ore imponent then everyo ther govemrnet thing as the socialist allince says "people before profit" |
| Date | 01:38:59, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Yes, smoking is addictive. But why do you demand that the government take power AWAY from the poor (power to make their own decisions, to be independent agents) under the guise of doing them favors? It's abhorrent. |
| Date | 01:39:46, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Additionally, let it be noted that the bill merely decentralizes the decision-making process. It does not necessitate making smoking legal. |
| Date | 01:53:29, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | i forgot to say smoking cases ALOT of polluttion |
| Date | 02:09:42, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Do you have statistics on that, or are you just talking? Again, note that local governments can still ban smoking. And consider the new jobs created for the less fortunate in our nation. |
| Date | 02:12:54, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | in a sig factory people make minime wage, are welfare is neer minime wage |
| Date | 02:13:53, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | aand when you smoke it casues more co2 to og in the air now co2 dose laoto f harm toare enverment dosnt it |
| Date | 02:15:23, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | So you're admitting that you'd rather have our impoverished on the dole than working? Isn't it best for the nation if people have jobs? I'm in favor of welfare, for sure, but to recommend it OVER a minimum wage job is crazy. I didn't ask for the chemical process, which I'm aware of, I asked for statistics on HOW MUCH pollution is throw off, as in, if it's a significant amount. |
| Date | 02:21:06, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | http://lib.bioinfo.pl/meid:192953 and if they cant get a job they resive welfare |
| Date | 02:28:22, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Nothing in that link is about environmental pollution and smoking. You're just saying nothing. I know how welfare works, the question is: Shouldn't we encourage those on welfare to seek work? It would put money in the coffers of Kazulia (We'd have a growing economy and have less people to pay on the dole). You said "welfare is almost as much as minimum wage" as though that's an excuse to encourage people to stay on it. We need a robust welfare system, but part of that contract ought to be that we encourage those ON welfare to find work! What are you misunderstanding here? |
| Date | 02:35:15, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | nothing, mostindistry is owned bty the state and the state never pays minime wage |
| Date | 02:36:20, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Epidemiol Infect. 1994 Apr ;112 (2):315-28 8150006 [Cited: 5] Smoking, the environment and meningococcal disease: a case control study. [My paper] R E Stanwell-Smith , J M Stuart , A O Hughes , P Robinson , M B Griffin , K Cartwright This case control study investigated environmental factors in 74 confirmed cases of meningococcal disease (MD). In children aged under 5, passive smoking in the home (30 or more cigarettes daily) was associated with an odds ratio (OR) of 7.5 (95% confidence interval (CI) 1.46-38.66). ORs increased both with the numbers of cigarettes smoked and with the number of smokers in the household, suggesting a dose-response relationship. MD in this age group was also significantly associated with household overcrowding (more than 1.5 persons per room) (OR 6.0, 95% CI 1.10-32.8), with kisses on the mouth with 4 or more contacts in the previous 2 weeks (OR 2.46, 95% CI 1.09-5.56), with exposure to dust from plaster, brick or stone in the previous 2 weeks (OR 2.24, 95% CI 1.07-4.65); and with changes in residence (OR 3.0, 95% CI 1.0-8.99), marital arguments (OR 3.0, 95% CI 1.26-7.17) and legal disputes in the previous 6 months (OR 3.10, 95% CI 1.24-7.78). These associations were independent of social class. Public health measures to lower the prevalence of cigarette smoking by parents of young children may reduce the incidence of MD. The influence of building dust and stressful life events merits further investigation. Mesh-terms: Adolescent; Adult; Aged; Case-Control Studies; Child; Child, Preschool; Confidence Intervals; Crowding; England, epidemiology; Environment; Environmental Exposure; Female; Human; Incidence; Infant; Infant, Newborn; Male; Matched-Pair Analysis; Meningococcal Infections, epidemiology; Meningococcal Infections, etiology; Meningococcal Infections, prevention & control; Meningococcal Infections, transmission; Microbial Sensitivity Tests; Middle Aged; Neisseria meningitidis, classification; Odds Ratio; Population Surveillance; Prevalence; Residential Mobility; Risk Factors; Seasons; Serotyping; Socioeconomic Factors; Support, Non-U.S. Gov't; Tobacco Smoke Pollution, adverse effects; Tobacco Smoke Pollution, prevention & control; |
| Date | 02:47:06, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | That study was about PARENTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN. Why ban everyone from smoking due to that finding? So, if most industry is owned by the state, why would the tobacco industry be different? Let the state control it and pay workers a hefty wage! |
| Date | 02:51:05, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | That study was about PARENTS OF YOUNG CHILDREN. Why ban everyone from smoking due to that finding? So, if most industry is owned by the state, why would the tobacco industry be different? Let the state control it and pay workers a hefty wage! |
| Date | 02:51:21, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Sorry for the double post. |
| Date | 02:51:53, August 01, 2007 CET | From | Anarchist Liberation Party | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | Also, thanks for coming around. Putting power in local government's hands will be healthy for all of us. |
| Date | 02:56:01, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | be aware that we will make public smoking iilegsl |
| Date | 15:06:32, August 01, 2007 CET | From | CSA Communist Party of the DPRK | To | Debating the Smoking Legalization Bill |
| Message | *sigh* ill have to remake are protection of health now. -_- |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 591 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 159 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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| Random quote: "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." - Charles Darwin |