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Bill: Civil Liberties Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Justice Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2438

Description[?]:

TO PREVENT the justice department for spreading falsehoods to justify violating the right to privacy.

RECOGNIZING the right of the people to assemble as they please, and to prevent officials from mistruth about public safety: e.g. A high official falsely stating that there is a threat to public safety in order to disperse a peaceful protest; the SJP asks of it's fellow parties to support this bill, and pass into law, a measure granting more rights to the people.

RECOGNIZING that some religious faiths may not pledge alliegance to any nation.

The Social Justice Party proposes that these measures be adopted by Kafuristan to increase the civil rights of all people.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:26:38, August 01, 2007 CET
FromKafuristani National Socialist Party
ToDebating the Civil Liberties Act
MessageThe KNSP cannot support this bill as it stands. Information is vital to solving the majority of crimes, and with Article One, this enables people to bury evidence against them based on some misguided sense of a right to total privacy.

As for Article Two, this prohibits police from breaking up protests that are very clear in having a violent purpose. In Roman times, the government maintained civility by acting on a problem before it happened. The best way to put out a fire is to ensure it never ignites.

Article Three, however, we can tolerate, as forced patriotism is no patriotism at all.

Date04:07:21, August 01, 2007 CET
FromSocial Justice Party
ToDebating the Civil Liberties Act
Message1- People have a right to privacy, a right that no man should take away.

2- If violence breaks out,t hat is a seperate crime. In Roman times, cities were lit aflame to build palaces.


Date04:27:08, August 01, 2007 CET
FromKafuristani National Socialist Party
ToDebating the Civil Liberties Act
MessageEven with the recognition of a right to privacy, this right only goes so far. When said rights interfere with the proper execution of the laws and standards of Kafuristan, then the rights no longer exist at that point. A "right" is not to be abused to the point where it allows them to get away with the breaking of laws and disturbing peace and civility.

If violence breaks out, it is a separate CRIME, yes. The purpose in the dispersing of a crowd is to PREVENT such crimes from occurring. Dispersion does NOT equal the arresting of those involved, it means breaking up the protest, or moving them.

Date05:20:57, August 01, 2007 CET
FromSocial Justice Party
ToDebating the Civil Liberties Act
MessageThese two things have potential for abuse. You can not enforce laws by breaking them.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 97

no
     

Total Seats: 369

abstain
 

Total Seats: 39


Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation.

Random quote: "It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea." - Robert Anton Wilson

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