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Bill: Military Gender Reform Act, 2437

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2438

Description^[?]:

That only men may serve as God intended.

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change Women in the military.

Old value:: Women serve alongside men.

Current: Women serve alongside men.

Proposed: Women have no place in the military.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	01:00:23, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, As this clearly isn't going to pass, we invite those voting neigh to answer whether they would vote for a return to non-combat roles for women (in compliance with international law and common morality) or segregrated units for women (equally illegal and immoral as the current system, but at least more combat effective). I yield the floor.

Date	11:20:40, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." -Genesis I.XXVII I yield the floor.

Date	16:24:36, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, What is our hon Friend's point? I yield the floor.

Date	16:31:40, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, The point which the our hon Friend seems to have missed is that man and woman were created equal in the eyes of God, and t hus should be treated as equals; we thought this was obvious, but it is evidently not so. I yield the floor.

Date	16:43:14, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, We beg to differ. Adam was created in God's image, reinforced by Jesus's male gender. Eve was created from his rib to keep him company. Throughout the Old and New Testaments is it clear that women were never intended to be equal. I yield the floor.

Date	17:12:45, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Hear, hear!

Date	17:26:40, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, "Adam" in the Hebrew language is a genderless being, androgynous, if you will. Also, it is clear that our Lord intended women to be treated well. He chooses all male Apostles, logically, because the society of the time, flawed as it was, was misogynistic. It is clear from reading the New Testament that the Lord abhorrs such inequality. Christ was male as, if He had been a woman, He would never have got anywhere. I yield the floor.

Date	17:43:26, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, Such piffle from the Tories. Who gives a damn what the Jews did, we know they're all insane. Look at Beiteynu.

Date	17:48:52, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, We fail to find a point in the Trashed Yuppies' last irrelevant spoutings. I yield the floor.

Date	17:54:36, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, My point is that it is irrelevant as to the possible interpretations of the name Adam, he was clearly established as a man. Eve was also subordinate, this is all very clear. We do not advocate keeping women locked in the home or any such thing, but keeping them out of the military is sound, traditional military practice. In the event of total war, we need a reliable back-up population for civilian jobs otherwise held by men.

Date	18:03:56, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, "Adam" is clearly, in the Hebrew original in any case, a genderless creature until given gender by God. At which point woman is also created and given equality. Further, we must allow all who wish to to serve in our armed forces, barring the mentally ill, the criminal etc, if we are to continue effective military operations. I yield the floor.

Date	18:32:25, August 02, 2007 CET
From	Covenanters (IA)
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr Speaker, It is a well known fact that the best armies in the world have managed perfectly well without having women forced into their ranks for sentimental politically correct reasons. * The Whigs - who are mostly Veterans of the Crusades - cheer at this and gesture that the Tories have mental issues. I yield the floor.

Date	11:30:04, August 03, 2007 CET
From	Luthori Tory Party
To	Debating the Military Gender Reform Act, 2437
Message	Mr. Speaker, At present we have one of the smallest populations in the world. We must maximise the number we can mobilise if we are to continue an expansionist foreign policy. The Tories, who are mostly victims of vicious persecution, glare the Whigs into silence I yield the floor.

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Voting

Vote

Seats

yes

Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party (14)
Covenanters (IA) (11)

Total Seats: 25

Total Seats: 65

abstain

Teleurstelling Party (10)

Total Seats: 10

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