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Bill: The government's policy concerning gated communities.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Super Socialist II Turbo Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2095
Description[?]:
| The private sector can set up gated communities. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning gated communities.
Old value:: No gated communities are allowed.
Current: No gated communities are allowed.
Proposed: The private sector can set up gated communities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:06:00, August 11, 2005 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the The government's policy concerning gated communities. |
| Message | We would support the private sector being permitted, we do not feel that the government should be permitted to segregate citizens in such a manner. |
| Date | 00:20:05, August 12, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the The government's policy concerning gated communities. |
| Message | So, if private citizens decide to set up a whites only community, that's okay? |
| Date | 05:15:33, August 12, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the The government's policy concerning gated communities. |
| Message | no, a gate does not permit racial discrimination, rather it permits a community to prevent unauthorized traffic. Thus if a community wanted to keep out a ice cream truck or through traffic, they could set up a gate. Similiarly this allows kids to be a bit safer playing outside, using the streets for ball play etc. Racial as well as other forms of discrimination should not be permitted by law. Outlawing gated communities is not an effective method of targeting this sort of behavior. |
| Date | 06:18:54, August 12, 2005 CET | From | Leviathan Party | To | Debating the The government's policy concerning gated communities. |
| Message | Outlawing gated communites does, however, prevent de facto discrimination that, and let's be frank, we all know is going to happen eventually. If people want to keep ice cream trucks and traffic off their roads, let them build a private road and be done with it. A gate and wall isn't just about keeping out traffic, it's about keeping out the unwanted people. |
| Date | 22:34:39, August 12, 2005 CET | From | Protectorate Party | To | Debating the The government's policy concerning gated communities. |
| Message | A gated community is just extending the model of a house to the next level. Residents and their guests are permitted in the community, the same as the owners and their guests are the only ones permitted in a home. Does the LevP suggest that our citizens adopt an open door policy to their own houses? Would our distinguished collegue like to go home tonight to find 20 unknown "guests" moved into his home? We should not cloud the issue with cries of discrimination or racial bais. We should not permit any community to discriminate in regards to these matters, but we should permit a community to close their door to unwanted vehicles, salesmen, or foot traffic. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 12 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 48 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 37 |
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