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Bill: Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Endralonian Situationist Collective
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2094
Description[?]:
Ultimately, we aim for a system in which the head of state and head of government are one, but at least this proposal alters a ridiculously outmoded and undemocratic institution (i.e. hereditary monarchy). The function of a monarch is to personify the aspirations and interests of its people, but it is wrong to suggest that these things belong to a fixed and immobile identity; the moods of the people shift, their aspirations change, and their head of state should be subject to these changes. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 10:08:22, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Imperial Party (Nazi Party) | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | This is again a stupid idea. We have an Emperor, we will keep him. No more discussion. |
Date | 10:09:28, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Imperial Party (Nazi Party) | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | And he is emperor for life! |
Date | 10:12:49, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Endralonian Situationist Collective | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | It isn't stupid at all, IPE. We disagree with the notion of hereditary monarchy, therefore we will take a stand against it. As an institution, the monarchy is simply incapable of representing the diversity inhearant in a modern society without being subject to the same democratic process as the nation's government. |
Date | 10:13:05, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Endralonian Situationist Collective | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | It isn't stupid at all, IPE. We disagree with the notion of hereditary monarchy, therefore we will take a stand against it. As an institution, the monarchy is simply incapable of representing the diversity inhearant in a modern society without being subject to the same democratic process as the nation's government. |
Date | 10:13:06, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Society of Sadists | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | 1. the option doesn't currently exist 2. do we really want a politician as monarch? Monarchs are more popular in the countries that have them than any politician. RL examples: Britain and Japan. The head of state has a special responsibility to be symbolic and when that person is a directly elected executive president (USA, France) this becomes an absurd balancing act. Even an elected figurehead (Germany, Italy, Ireland) is still almost always a (retired) politician with not nearly the same independence or cross party respect as a monarch. A hereditary monarchy is of course anti-democratic and doesn't pretend to be otherwise. But because kings and emperors are held to be entirely unpartisan (they risk dethronement if they don't) it's a remarkably good system for keeping politics down to the government level. |
Date | 14:06:16, August 11, 2005 CET | From | NATIONAL UNION | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | How does Co-Liber decide it's vote? Randomly? |
Date | 14:49:31, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Endralonian Situationist Collective | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | Perhaps they have an algorithm. |
Date | 23:11:44, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Society of Sadists | To | Debating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy) |
Message | vote(Co-Liber) != vote(SoS) |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 16 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 53 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 31 |
Random fact: Party candidates for head of state elections are not visible to the public. This means that you cannot see who will run and who will not, which adds another strategic element to the elections. |
Random quote: "I swear to the Lord I still can't see Why Democracy means Everybody but me." - Langston Hughes, The Black Man Speaks |