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Bill: Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)

Details

Submitted by[?]: Endralonian Situationist Collective

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2094

Description[?]:

Ultimately, we aim for a system in which the head of state and head of government are one, but at least this proposal alters a ridiculously outmoded and undemocratic institution (i.e. hereditary monarchy). The function of a monarch is to personify the aspirations and interests of its people, but it is wrong to suggest that these things belong to a fixed and immobile identity; the moods of the people shift, their aspirations change, and their head of state should be subject to these changes.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:08:22, August 11, 2005 CET
From Conservative Imperial Party (Nazi Party)
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessageThis is again a stupid idea.

We have an Emperor, we will keep him. No more discussion.

Date10:09:28, August 11, 2005 CET
From Conservative Imperial Party (Nazi Party)
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessageAnd he is emperor for life!

Date10:12:49, August 11, 2005 CET
From Endralonian Situationist Collective
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessageIt isn't stupid at all, IPE. We disagree with the notion of hereditary monarchy, therefore we will take a stand against it. As an institution, the monarchy is simply incapable of representing the diversity inhearant in a modern society without being subject to the same democratic process as the nation's government.

Date10:13:05, August 11, 2005 CET
From Endralonian Situationist Collective
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessageIt isn't stupid at all, IPE. We disagree with the notion of hereditary monarchy, therefore we will take a stand against it. As an institution, the monarchy is simply incapable of representing the diversity inhearant in a modern society without being subject to the same democratic process as the nation's government.

Date10:13:06, August 11, 2005 CET
From Society of Sadists
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
Message1. the option doesn't currently exist
2. do we really want a politician as monarch?

Monarchs are more popular in the countries that have them than any politician.
RL examples: Britain and Japan.
The head of state has a special responsibility to be symbolic and when that person is a directly elected executive president (USA, France) this becomes an absurd balancing act.
Even an elected figurehead (Germany, Italy, Ireland) is still almost always a (retired) politician with not nearly the same independence or cross party respect as a monarch.

A hereditary monarchy is of course anti-democratic and doesn't pretend to be otherwise.
But because kings and emperors are held to be entirely unpartisan (they risk dethronement if they don't) it's a remarkably good system for keeping politics down to the government level.

Date14:06:16, August 11, 2005 CET
From NATIONAL UNION
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessageHow does Co-Liber decide it's vote? Randomly?

Date14:49:31, August 11, 2005 CET
From Endralonian Situationist Collective
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
MessagePerhaps they have an algorithm.

Date23:11:44, August 11, 2005 CET
From Society of Sadists
ToDebating the Anarchist Reform Proposal 4 (Elected Monarchy)
Messagevote(Co-Liber) != vote(SoS)

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 16

no
    

Total Seats: 53

abstain
   

Total Seats: 31


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