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Bill: Act of Reformation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2442
Description[?]:
| An act seeking change, that we hope to see implemented forthwith. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Accord des Nations Amicales.
Article 2
Withdraw from the Jelbanian Free Trade Agreement.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning adoption.
Old value:: Adoption policy is to be established by local governments.
Current: Adoption policy is to be established by local governments.
Proposed: Adoption is not regulated.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may only disperse a crowd if a state of emergency has been declared.
Current: The police may only disperse a crowd if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The nation's capital city.
Old value:: 741
Current: Atyr
Proposed: 957
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government position in respect to crossdressing policy.
Old value:: Local governments determine the legality of crossdressing.
Current: Local governments determine the legality of crossdressing.
Proposed: Crossdressing is allowed.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Premier Ministre de la Confédération
Current: Premier Ministre (Prime Minister)
Proposed: The Voice of Kanjor
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Président de la Confédération
Current:
| Proposed: By the Grace of God, Her Royal Majesty, from the House of Orléans-Vasser, Empress of Canrille, Monarch of Lourenne, Queen of Kanjor, Queen of Alduria, Queen of the Rildanorians, Princess of Hutori and Kazulia, Grand Duchess of Kreshar, Grand Duchess of Silliers, Grand Duchess of Roccato, Grand Duchess of Yodukan, Duchess of Weignad, Duchess of Meriath, Duchess of Audierne, Countess of Valois, Countess of Zanyal, Protector of the Orinco People, Leader of the Order of the Golden Kingdom, Head of the Union of Canrille, Commander of the Royal Armed Forces, Defender of the Constitution and the Realm: Catherine V, represented by the Governor-General: Mélissa Boudier |
Proposed: Advocate
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Sénat du Kanjor
Current: Chambre des Députés (Chamber of Deputies)
Proposed: Estates General
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: Local governments may regulate laws on public acts of affection and obscenity.
Current: Local governments may regulate laws on public acts of affection and obscenity.
Proposed: There are no laws regarding obscene public acts.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change The official title of subnational entities, also known as regions.
Old value:: Province
Current: Province (Region)
Proposed: Kanton
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:00:24, August 09, 2007 CET | From |  Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | The Accord des Nations Amicales has been a cornerstone of Kanjors Foreign Policy for many years. Over the course of those years it has helped expel the Solentians from Wantuni, and has been instrumental in keeping the peace Terra wide. The Constitutional changes seem to hearken back to the 23rd century when fascism was rife in Kanjor... |
| Date | 11:05:21, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Ahhh yes the glorious 23rd century, |
| Date | 11:17:23, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Glorious????... We invite anyone who may be interested to checkout the legislation and events of that era they will soon see that the Kanjor of those days was repressive, undemocratic, imperialistic yet also strangely ineffective and in fact was regarded a sort of joke by most other nations. |
| Date | 11:26:22, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Much as the PPK lead Kanjor has been regarded. We would like to inquire what exactly is authouritarian about our proposals. |
| Date | 11:37:39, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | The names proposed are that used one of the regimes of that era and with the CEFL description of that time as 'glorious'...well it makes us wonder! |
| Date | 11:42:50, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | The names were the anmes that The MPFP proposed in bringing down the empire and bringing back democracy, how very very authouritarian of them. |
| Date | 11:47:10, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | ah yes, just like the current Deltarian 'democracy'! |
| Date | 11:53:56, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | better fascism than socialism any day of the week. |
| Date | 11:55:40, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We are sure the PDC will be intererested to hear that! |
| Date | 11:59:28, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We believe that the idela government has elements from all sides. The PDC have shown themselves willing to disscuss and compromise, and have as such been valued partners for many years despite our ideological differences. It is odd to lable us a fascist party given that our attempts to give more civil liberties are repeatedly defeated. If you look at our political positioning; we can hardly be called authouritarian |
| Date | 12:26:02, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | I support all the legislature, but I'm not particularly in favor of the superficial changes, I find them unnecessary. and uh, Fascism over Socialism aye? the PDC sees such decisions being made in the near future of Kanjor if the current state of affairs continues. |
| Date | 12:27:11, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We see what you mean about civil iliberties: after all your policy concerning adoption gives more liberty to prospective child molesters! |
| Date | 12:29:06, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | also, we'd like to withdraw from any Free Trade agreement, but not from the Accord. PPK: and perhaps limiting adoptions restricts the liberty of perfectly capable parents. |
| Date | 12:35:25, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Yes, with adoption these rights can come into conflict but surely in this circumstance it is the rights of the child which should be paramount as adoption is primarily for there benefit. We do not believe that it is unreasonable for prospective adoptive parents to be in some way screened, as the proposal stands someone convicted of child molestation may adopt. |
| Date | 12:37:21, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We simply believe that the government has no right to put anyone rights above anothers. |
| Date | 12:39:44, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Does not the government have a duty to protect those who cannot protect themselves? |
| Date | 12:48:17, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Nope |
| Date | 11:14:14, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | than perhaps I'm missing the point of government, then. Tell me, what exactly does a government do then? |
| Date | 14:19:12, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Grand Order of Organized Native Sodality | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We support Articles Five through Twelve. We will need to be convinced of the need for the others. |
| Date | 19:48:36, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We would support articles 3 and 4 in a seperate act. |
| Date | 02:01:52, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | We have deicided that in the interests of government unity we will approve this bill. |
| Date | 02:45:17, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | This is terrible! Has the proposing Party thought at all of the implications of this Bill's proposals?? It seems the CEFL was foaming at the bit to change the very nature of the Confederation. Not only does this fly in the face of the traditions of Kanjor, which should be protected or else only gradually changed, but it also makes a mockery of government. Does the CEFL's Francophobia cloud its judgment? Why the changing of the capital?! Does its obsession with giving the people absolute "freedom" of choice deafen its ears to those it would be hurting? It seems the CEFL has spent so long thinking of how to implement its "permissive" program that it has not to think whether it should. We will not support this Bill under any circumstances. We will not support a change in the titles of the government in both the name of limited tradition and relevancy. Finally, we do not support such misguided interpretations of "freedom" and "liberty". |
| Date | 14:53:44, August 12, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Tradition, all the titles and capital proposed predate the current ones, they are the true Kanjoran titles and capital |
| Date | 14:54:05, August 12, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Act of Reformation |
| Message | Rich of the DLP to call us misguided |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 125 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 187 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 63 |
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