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Bill: Gambling and Hunting Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2446
Description[?]:
| Hunting is a practice that currently has no protection of any of our wildlife while our national "sport" is to engage in hunting a bird that i nearing extinction in the name of "this was your national animal and now we're shooting it." which is vindictive, idiotic and serves no purpose. As laws have been re-analysed it seems something slipped through the cracks and we simply assumed gambling was legal and had no problem with it being so. A measure to re-legalise gambling has been attached. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards hunting endangered animals.
Old value:: The government enforces no regulations.
Current: Hunting endangered animals is illegal.
Proposed: Hunting endangered animals is illegal.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is illegal.
Current: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Proposed: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official national sport.
Old value:: Red-tailed Hawk Hunting
Current: Football
Proposed: Poker
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:36:07, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Ha'ganat Ha'aretz | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Poker is not a sport, and therefore we cannot support the second article. We would be more agreeable to this bill if the second article proposed baseball or boxing as the nat'l sport. |
| Date | 17:01:04, August 09, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Poker is as much a sport as hunting is, or maybe chess. |
| Date | 12:04:01, August 10, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | While we have no intention of banning gambling, gambling has always been frowned upon by our religious leaders. Therefore we will not support making it our national sport. As for hunting, it is up to the property owner to decide if people can hunt stuff on their land. We won't infringe on that. |
| Date | 12:52:58, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | This bill does not ban hunting, only the hunting of endangered species as endangered species are a global matter and we must do our part to protect it. |
| Date | 12:54:35, August 10, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | But to do that, you propose telling people what to do in their own land. The issue of endangered animals quite frankly isnt important enough for us to interfere. |
| Date | 13:13:03, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | As opposed to telling people that they no longer own the land and you can seize it for weapons building? I think one bill here is interfering a lot less than the other. |
| Date | 13:18:40, August 10, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Probably, but we have good reason to interfere, you don't. |
| Date | 13:26:16, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Mine is to save something that may not exist much longer for future generations by preventing it from being killed, yours is to build weapons that may prevent these future generations from existing. While your argument is you wish to save the people of the state by doing so, mine is I want to save the environment of the state before we have to explain why these no longer exist. |
| Date | 14:04:49, August 10, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Ignoring the previous discussion the reason I chose poker was actually due to its relation to Judaism. Such players as high stakes professional Barry Greenstrin, and a name closer to home, the Mizrachi brothers. Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi, CardPlayer's Player of the Year, and Robert Mizrachi, the current Omaha Hold 'Em world champion. |
| Date | 17:36:13, August 11, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Having looked at the current laws, Gambling is actually currently banned, so poker could not be our national sport. |
| Date | 18:07:38, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | I have amended the bill to rectify that. |
| Date | 18:50:14, August 11, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | Still, don't want poker as our national sport. Our current one has so much history; its about the only thing which survived from the Fifth Homeland, through the Caliphate and Republic to now. In any case, we could only agree to making small scale gambling legal. |
| Date | 16:03:02, August 12, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | History is one thing however the fact remains it is still hunting. Our choice of national sport was truly an attempt to bridge something between the two of us and our beliefs but if you have other suggestions we will be glad to listen. |
| Date | 17:24:20, August 12, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | We just don't see the need to change the national sport. If you want to propose a bill to legalise small scale gambling, we could support it, since we now accept our decision to ban it was unneccessarily authoritarian. |
| Date | 17:36:46, August 12, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberty Persecution Complex Party | To | Debating the Gambling and Hunting Bill |
| Message | The reason to change it is that the encouragement of hunting it is to maintain the creatures existence for a future generation: this bill does not outlaw hunting, it just protects certain animals in danger and from over hunting the hawk needs protecting. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 61 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 39 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: The people in your nation don't like inactive parties. When you often abstain from voting for a bill, they will dislike your party and your visibility to the electorate will decrease significantly. Low visibility will means you are likely to lose seats. So keep in mind: voting Yes or No is always better than Abstaining. |
| Random quote: "I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it." - Niccolo Machiavelli |