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Bill: Freedom for Defense Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Order of Organized Native Sodality
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2442
Description[?]:
| No person, entity, group, or nation shall determine the safety of Confédération des Deux Kanjors. Article One. Officers and employees of the intelligence community are to make every effort to establish and maintain intelligence relationships with any person, entity, group, or nation with ties to the Confédération des Deux Kanjors. Any actions necessary to maintain information are permitted. Article Two. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors maintains nuclear weapons to deter, dissuade, and defeat any immediate or potential conventional, nuclear, chemical and biological weapons threats. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors will do whatever is necessary to deter the use of weapons of mass destruction against the Confédération des Deux Kanjors, its allies, and its interests. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors would prefer an alternative solution to nuclear weapons on another sovereign nation; however, no military response will be ruled out as a potential response for any threat. Article Three. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors maintains chemical and biological weapons to deter, dissuade, and defeat any immediate or potential conventional, nuclear, chemical and biological weapons threats. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors will do whatever is necessary to deter the use of chemical or biological weapons against the Confédération des Deux Kanjors, its allies, and its interests. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors would prefer an alternative solution to chemical and biological weapons on another sovereign nation; however, no military response will be ruled out as a potential response for any threat. Article Four. The Confédération des Deux Kanjors maintains any actions to protect its citizens, its allies, and its interests, in times of crisis or war, are permitted. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:54:56, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Freedom for Defense Act |
| Message | Torture should not be allowed under any circumstances, it is contrary to the rule of law and indeed common decency. If we allow torture we are no better than terrorists ourselves. As for nuclear and biological weaponry the curent laws allow a measured response on our part to any such attacks, thus having a deterrent value, the proposed changes would in fact encourage any potential aggressors to launch a pre-emptive strike against our facilities. |
| Date | 16:25:04, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Freedom for Defense Act |
| Message | We will not support the use of torture, nor will we support the use of biological and chemical and nuclear weopons in aggression by this nation - we feel that safe guarding our current option to use them in retalliation is sufficient in protecting our national security. |
| Date | 19:02:20, August 11, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Freedom for Defense Act |
| Message | We can actually support the use the above mentioned weapons however we cannot condone torture so if you removed that article we would support it. We have realised that perhaps the ability to use such weopons in any situation could act as an even stronger deterrant to other nations in declaring war and thus save kanjoran lives. However we strongly reccomend that such weopons never be used in acts of total aggression only as an act of retalliation in a case where we were invaded ...... we think that waiting until somebody else uses them on us as the current law demands is possibly a little too submissive and could actually undermine national security. |
| Date | 14:43:45, August 12, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Freedom for Defense Act |
| Message | Torture is a major anathema to us, but we support the rest of the bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 125 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 250 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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