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Bill: **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442

Details

Submitted by[?]: Centre Démocratique

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2442

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:17:27, August 13, 2007 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageCCU proposes this center-left cabinet coalition with the amount of ministries corresponding to the number of seats in the Assembly.

Date16:20:34, August 13, 2007 CET
FromDrtárék Jelbék Prta
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageBut this cabinet includes the CCU and the Communists, the two parties who have done the least in recent years, have offered ineffective government for most of the last decade, and were heavily defeated at the last election?

Date16:32:00, August 13, 2007 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageCCU has been active in Jelbanian politics for roughly three hundred years. I believe the JKK is foolish to attempt to dismiss our party as "ineffective." The sad thing is most of the parties here right now will have disbanded in 30 years time, leaving CCU to form new coalitions with new parties. However, we are pleased to serve alongside the Liberals, the Communists, and the orgonic party - three parties we have a good deal of respect of admiration, even though we do not agree on all issues. We hope they continue to serve Jelbanians for many years to come.

ooc: Perhaps you think we are "ineffective" because we abstained a good number of bills. For that we apologize, I travel quite a bit and often have no internet access. However, if parties allowed proper debate time, our party probably would not have missed those bills.

Date16:55:17, August 13, 2007 CET
FromDrtárék Jelbék Prta
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageWe respect that the CCU has existed for a long time, and at times has ruled the nation as the sole party participating in elections.

However are description of the current government as ineffective is primarily based around the imortant matter of running the country, which we feel has been done badly. A simple look at the finances of the country show that most departments are seriously underfunded for the activities that they are supposed to be carrying out, and we see this as a very ineffective measure. Government spending works out at 5% of the total GNP, and yet, supposedly, the government funds a massive recycling project, free health care for all, free university education, and an armed forces capable of using nuclear weapons, amongst other things. Basically we feel that the nation has been severly underfunded, and as a result must be seriously messed up.

ooc: One respects that. Indeed any 'attacks' are strictly In Character, and are not directed at the player personally.

Date18:35:58, August 13, 2007 CET
FromBloc Militaire pour Restauration
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
Messagewe won't support this bill. We think that the the coalition proposed by the JKK will do more to reform the market and keep the government small than this center-left cabinet. Besides we are offered more ministries in the other cabinet

Date19:48:07, August 13, 2007 CET
FromCentre Démocratique
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageWe have no choice but to respect your decision. But we would like to remind the Liberals that their voting record is much closer to the parties listed in this cabinet.

ooc: JKK - we know that your attacks are in character. no worries.

Date01:39:01, August 15, 2007 CET
Fromorgonic party
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageLPJ, weird kind of liberal you are, To change at least the name of the party will sound appropriate, since true liberal have nothing to do with the constitutional front,

Date13:03:49, August 15, 2007 CET
FromDrtárék Jelbék Prta
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageEconomic liberalism? All three government parties agree on that.

Date18:42:53, August 15, 2007 CET
FromBloc Militaire pour Restauration
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
Messagewell that's why we aren't called the CUF but are called liberal, because we differ on some point

Date02:47:58, August 16, 2007 CET
FromJesuék avé Avjogadék Kàticképylz
ToDebating the **UPDATED - Vote Here ** Center-Left Cabinet Proposal of January 2442
MessageWe will not allow this, we will abstain, as new on this matter, the Church would just like to make public its wild hatred on communism

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 109

no
   

Total Seats: 223

abstain
    

Total Seats: 169


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