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Bill: Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kanjoran Centrist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2443
Description[?]:
| We propose keeping our youngsters in education or vocational training until at least the age of 18 so that we can create a more highly qualified and competitive workforce that will help Kanjor develop as an industrial and commercial power. Increasing the school leaving age will also slightly reduce the size of the workforce and thus reduce our unemployment levels, we currently only have 90% of working age adults in employment we would like to increase this to 95% within 5 years. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 16
Current: 18
Proposed: 18
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:17:34, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | Agree, but for other reasons. |
| Date | 03:16:24, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Autonomie d'Ouvrier | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | We oppose. Compulsory schooling is just another word for the deadening the spirit of children of the working class. School is where future workers learn to obey orders from their future bosses. |
| Date | 08:30:36, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | That is ridiculous, school is where children are educated and prepared for the future. Their place in the worplace is determined by how they acheieve - this will give children the chance to escape poverty and help us work towards a societ ased on merit not class. |
| Date | 09:15:12, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | What about the children who are needed to support their families as early as possible because of their low income? We believe the current laws allow a child to leave school if need be, not because we want kids to drop out as early as possible. |
| Date | 09:27:25, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Autonomie d'Ouvrier | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | KCP- There are schools where children learn and are not brainwashed. The Modern School movement is a good example. State compulsory education is and always will be there to deaden the sense of the working class, and provide the meritocratic arena for the sons and daughters of the coordinator class(one of your solid constituencies). |
| Date | 09:27:30, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | We agree with the AO and the PDC on this. School is a means for indoctrination of vunerable minds, for filling away children into boxes according to their willingness to obey the system. We shall vote against. |
| Date | 23:25:33, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | We feel that education can be a way out of poverty for those that embrace it, those that do not will blame it for their suffering no doubt. |
| Date | 23:42:25, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | The DLP wholeheartedly agrees with the KCP. Education is a means of rising above poverty and the ultimate means of allowing all individuals to rise to their potential; which is clearly a major goal of socialism. The current education policy of the Confederation clearly states: "Standardised testing is secondary to student creativity." This does not create robots, but highly creative individuals capable of solving and institigating problem-solving questions and topics. Adding a few more years of education is a good thing. |
| Date | 10:25:08, August 16, 2007 CET | From | Partie Patriotique de Kanjor | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | We agree with the AO, PDC and CEFL on this. We couldn't have put our views better than the CEFL did, a certain amount of formal schooling is necessary but forcing young Kanjorans to remain there for another two years seems excessive. |
| Date | 22:09:48, August 16, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | We feel that we only view an extra two years to be excessive because we are conditioned to think of leaving age as 16 but clearly once we become accustomed to 18 we could see the benefits and should support this. Moving to vote. |
| Date | 00:38:54, August 17, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | Why has the DLP changed it's mind? |
| Date | 00:52:35, August 17, 2007 CET | From | Grand Order of Organized Native Sodality | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | Because 18 is the age a person is considered an adult, we find this proposal acceptable. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 125 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 250 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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