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Bill: Justice Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Militarist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2443
Description[?]:
| Bill regarding a change in several justice laws. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Proposed: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: Extradition to nations with capital punishment or with cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects and convicts is not allowed.
Current: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Proposed: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:45:27, August 15, 2007 CET | From | Militarist Party | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | Hear me out before you judge my proposal, fellow parties: 1. These convicts and criminals who practice atrocities and despicable acts against country and mankind surely deserve to be punished for the many deaths they caused. If this is not carried out for the families of those they killed, then it is not justice. 2. While I agree with the fact that cruel and unusual punishment should never be allowed, I believe it is justifie if a known terrorist or war criminal is extradited to a country for capital punishment, as they would deserve such punishment. 3. Here, what if our regular police officers encounter situations where their enemies use lethal force, and they are left without a weapon to counter them? Are they to be left out to dry? 4. Sometimes it is justfied to toture and cause pain to one to save the lives of many. The ends justify the means. |
| Date | 09:22:50, August 15, 2007 CET | From | New Conservative Party of Malivia | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | It is never justified to take a life. You can argue all you like that it is "justice", but all it represents is sinking to the level of those you wish to punish. The New Conservative Party cannot support this Bill. OOC: Not that a no-seat party matters, but eh. |
| Date | 19:52:05, August 15, 2007 CET | From | United Malivia | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | OOC: No-seat parties matter just as much as seated parties. The only way you can get seats is by voicing your opinion and voting. "United Malivia is a strong believer that the state should be put before the persons, as such death is a price one should pay for causing death. The rehabilitation of criminals, especially those who have murdered is a practice that has gone on too long and has proven to be unsuccessful. We cannot allow more innocent Malivians to perish because of the ignorance of their government. As such, when put to vote, United Malivia will vote yes for this bill." |
| Date | 03:41:51, August 16, 2007 CET | From | Militarist Party | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | Article 4 has been removed, as it has already been passed in another bill. |
| Date | 04:52:27, August 16, 2007 CET | From |  Protectorate Party | To | Debating the Justice Bill |
| Message | We do not feel that our officers need to carry weapons with them where ever they go. Nor do we feel that executing people in the name of the state is ever justified. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 375 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 139 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 59 |
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