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Bill: Foreign Policy Reformation Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Autonomie d'Ouvrier
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2444
Description[?]:
| It seems our Foreign policy has become horridly isolationist and angry towards our Sisters and Brothers across the border. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: No foreigners are permitted to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Proposed: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Current: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Proposed: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Current: The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order.
Proposed: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:09:50, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | We can only support Article One, the rest would have a negative impact - clearly article one would allow kanjor to benefit from the beneficial qualities of foreign workers who may have skills which are in demand in Kanjor. The other two articles would be bad, article two would remove any benefit we gain from foreign aid and we are clearly not a charity .....so should benefit in some way. Article 3 would open the floodgates of immigration. So we would vote no at the current time and state of the bill. |
| Date | 00:33:48, August 18, 2007 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | In it's current form this bill has a yes from the PPPP, though that hardly helps against a no from the KCP. Kanjorans and people in general are charitable, and I'm sure they would appreciate their government reaching out to make Terra a better place. |
| Date | 01:27:40, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | Sure. |
| Date | 01:52:35, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Grand Order of Organized Native Sodality | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | Allow us to quote the PPPP here, "A strictly volunteer military a better military. Citizens of the Confédération should not be forced into doing any work for the government." And then change it slightly, "A strictly volunteer charity organization is a better charity organization. Citizens of the Confédération should not be forced into doing any work for the government." Aid costs moeny, and where would all the money come from? We may be a charitable people, but we are not a charity. In any case, there are still Kanjorans in need of aid and we should help ourselves before we help others. As for article three, are we the only party that remembers a war going on? Now is not the time to open our borders. |
| Date | 02:08:51, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Autonomie d'Ouvrier | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | You've made the war up CoN nobody cares. We are not giving high levels of aid, only moderate aid. We are not a charity, we believe in solidarity, namely that we help others out when they are in need and they do the same. Its not the elitist notion of throwing coins to the dirty plebs, but supporting a fellow human in need as we all fall on hard times. Sadly CoN seems to believe that no nation would ever come to our aid if Kanjor was in trouble. Such a lack of trust in humanity thier part. |
| Date | 02:38:08, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Grand Order of Organized Native Sodality | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | When did we say that? We know Mordusia would not come to our aid because that's what MORDUSIA declared. |
| Date | 10:12:44, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Autonomie d'Ouvrier | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | Ah so Mordusia=all nations now? Magic indeed. |
| Date | 19:38:36, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | When did Article 3 get added? We don't like that one. |
| Date | 23:04:01, August 18, 2007 CET | From | Autonomie d'Ouvrier | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | Why? We're not a police state. We need not treat foreigners like crazed potential criminals. |
| Date | 13:55:17, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | We would support article 1if proposed in it's own bill as we feel this is the only proposal that could actually benefit the people of Kanjor regardless 0f their supposed charitable nature! Charity begins at home anyway.... and we do take issue at where funding would come from for such foreign aid. At least with the current legislation aid is tied to trade and therefore helps countries in need contribute and participate in the global economy in a way that outright charitiy would not encourage, charity is not what these countries want or need - they merely require assitance to enable them to work themselves out of poverty. |
| Date | 13:56:21, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Kanjoran Centrist Party | To | Debating the Foreign Policy Reformation Act |
| Message | And furthermore, tying aid to trade allows a more sustainable aid policy and does not drain as much money from the Kanjoran economy yet provides just as much support as outright charity would in fiscal means. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 154 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 221 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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