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Bill: The Home Schooling Recognition Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Chinkopodian Economic Democrats

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2041

Description[?]:

As the current system demands that all children must be educated at school, this party points out that home schooling can be just as, and sometimes more effective, and also allows for an alternative if a child is bullied frequently etc. Therefore, this party requests that home-schooling using curriculum material and qualified tutors be legalised.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
Messagethere are other answers to bullying etc... home-schooling will not make sure the child learns everything that is neccesery, and might create socially weak individuals.

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FromConservative Party
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageId agree with a home schooling system

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageShall I put it to vote?

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageCommunist party - yes it will, with home schooling monthly inspections must be made to ensure sticking to the curriculum. I know there are other answers, however this is an answer and that's simply another reason to support the bill.

Not necessarily, however.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
Message[The latter sentence in response to the socially weak comment]

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
Messagethe socialy weak part was not beceause of what they are learning, but beceause they will be isolated. And therefore when going to work later (which everybody has to do eventually) they will be socially weak, since they haven't got the experience of reacting towards other humans. (off course some children also play with children form the street, etc.. etc... but most children make a lot of social contact at school and in some cases all social contact)

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageThe other solutions are easy, from RL-nations. You could punish the parents from the person who bully's. You could make seniors a gaurdian of a junior, etc... etc... home schooling is not the answer

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageI know a fair few home-schooled people who are very socially strong.

Home schooling is AN answer. It may not be the only answer, but children learneverything they'll need to educationally from it, as far as home-schooled people I know of it doesn't create socially weak individuals (although it can do, homeschooled people are hardly going to be kept in the house all their lives. School isn't the only way of getting friends and becoming sociable, you know), and it's not as if this bill is making home schooling compulsory. It's making it optional.

Because will TEACH everything needed, and looks to me like it doesn't create socially weak individuals. School doesn't necessarily avoid making socially weak individuals, either. It may not be perfect (but neither is school, in many respects), but it should be recognised as an alternative.

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
Messagei never said it was the ONLY way, i said it was an important way at that age. And i didn't say all these people would be socially weak, but that the posibility existed. And that it would be stupid while other options exist. It might teach everything neaded, thats an asumption not a confirmation.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageYes a confirmation. Homeschooling requires officials to check that the pupil is doing their work etc. on a regular basis. Homeschooled pupils must also stick to the national syllabus.

Of course the possibility exists. There's a similar sized possibility that someone might become a social outcast in school, right? (if not more) Guess what? The means they'll become socially weak too! Does that mean, because of that possibility, that we should outlaw schools? ;)

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageThat possibilty exists yes, but not as big as with home-schooling. And there is special education for that. Every school in the region where i live has things to prevent bullying which are very effective... And there are special schools for people with learning disorders so they will be learned to function in society and they will learn TOGETHER with other kids that have the same problems, so they dont feel like they are lonely and the only one that has this. And a lot of kids will start to feel lonely and will think of themselves as outcasts. That would again not make very socially strong people.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageNot really. I'm AT school, and there are many people who are viewed as social outcasts, why, I can think of at least three people right now, and there are lots more. In Britain, home schooling is legal, and the amount of people who actually do it are a smaller amount of people than even 1 person in my year. EVEN if homeschooling makes everyone who does it socially weak, there's still just as large a possibility that school will also create the same amount of socially weak people.- Yes, great. Why not have more things that are effective? - Yes, exactly. But you're not lobbying to outlaw schools,are you? My point was that the chance of home-schooling producing socially weak people is just as much as that of schools producing socially weak people. If you're not lobbying to outlaw schools, then how can you justify your decision to keep home-schooling outlawed by stating that it can create socially weak individuals? Because we've already clarified that it teaches them everything they need.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageEDIT TO "the amount of people who actually do it are a smaller amount of people than even 1 person in my year": =============================================================== the amount of people who actually do it are a smaller amount of people than even 1 person in my year >>>proportionately<<<.

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
Messageit teaches everything they need but it's about contact. As i have already told children with problems can be send to special schools so they still make social contact (i'm in such school and it works fine). I dont see why home schooling is needed. And every argumentation you gave is repeating your previous, while i keep giving new information.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageWell, I'm repeating information because I believe that the information I've got is enough to show that it's not a BAD thing. It may not be needed, but it should at least be recognised as a form of education.

I'll just put it to vote.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageYaay!

You can put enters in messages now!

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FromLibertarian party of Darnussia
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageI recognize the fact that it's not a bad thing. But i still think it can have a bad influence on a childs social progress.

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FromChinkopodian Economic Democrats
ToDebating the The Home Schooling Recognition Act
MessageOK, sure. I don't, so I suppose we'll just have to make it up for ourselves.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 142

no
   

Total Seats: 345

abstain
  

Total Seats: 118


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