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Bill: The Abolition of the Monarchy
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2445
Description[?]:
| The DSP, feels that the monarchy is a useless aspect of government that hinders our nation by taking certain executive powers away from being democratically elected. Therefore the the DSP proposes the Monarchy be abolished and Executive power be vested in a President and Prime Minister. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Archon
Current: 大靖高国首相/大靖髙國首相- Dai Sekōkoku Shushō (Prime Minister of the Imperial State of Seko)
Proposed: Prime Minister
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Basileus
Current: 惟忠、大靖高国天皇及び大元帥陸海空軍大将/惟忠、大靖髙國天皇及び大元帥陸海空軍大將 - Koretada, Dai Sekōkoku Tennō, Dai Gensui Rikukaikūgun Taishō (His Imperial Majesty, Koretada, Emperor of Seko, Grand Commander-in-chief of the Imperial Armed Forces)
Proposed: President
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:29:55, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | The SCP wholeheartedly supports this move. |
| Date | 00:45:37, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Aristocracy United | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Wouldn't having two elected officials worsen partisanship overall in our government? A symbolic head of state does not interfere with the way the country is run at the moment, as opposed to the system you propose. |
| Date | 01:30:43, August 20, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Not really. The president, whom is the head of state is elected by the people. The Prime Minister, whom is head of government is elected by the parliament. In both cases they are voted for by the people, in the case of the PM it is more election through representation, but still. |
| Date | 03:33:50, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Aristocracy United | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Regardless, they still have to split some of the power that currently only the head of government uses. By giving this nation what is in effect two leaders, it'll simply increase political bureaucracy and cause legislative stagnation. Who ever heard of a successful country with both a Prime Minister and a President? |
| Date | 05:04:36, August 20, 2007 CET | From |  Imperial Pluralism Party | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | I might have supported if you hadn't chosen such lifeless, dull titles. This bill would revert us to a blank, "brand-name" republic. |
| Date | 05:34:55, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | OOC: Make and then put together the roots for equivalent titles in Tsekwon and get back to DSP on this. |
| Date | 05:54:13, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Superhuman Creation Party | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | If it's not hereditary there's a chance a nigger will become the head of state and I won't have that. >:( |
| Date | 06:02:40, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Sekowan Communist Party | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | How do you know the current royal family isn't black? |
| Date | 09:00:10, August 20, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | About 30 % of the RL world has a president and Prime Minister, apart from that it provides a further set of checks and balances, which is something needed in parliamentary systems. What's the point in coming up with flamboyant titles, they don't really mean anything or affect the persons job. However, if you want to suggest some, and it means you'll vote in favor of it, we'll do it. The DSP/I do/es not recognize the idiots racists remark as legitimate. |
| Date | 23:46:03, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Aristocracy United | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Yeah, but are they the SUCCESSFUL 30%? I think I've made my point good sir. :colbert: |
| Date | 00:16:31, August 21, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | I would say the majority of them are successful. |
| Date | 00:17:36, August 21, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Forgot to add, if the head of state and head of government were to be the same thing, and democratically elected, would you feel differently towards the abolition of the monarchy? |
| Date | 03:04:08, August 21, 2007 CET | From | Aristocracy United | To | Debating the The Abolition of the Monarchy |
| Message | Honestly? Yes, since that would render my argument somewhat moot. O: |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 182 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 176 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 241 |
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