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Bill: Aid to Deltaria

Details

Submitted by[?]: Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2445

Description[?]:

The Imperial Hulstrian Party has recently been informed through our friends in Deltaria whom the Mormons didn't royal piss off, that Cobura ia still plotting to invade them and has already made several threats, privately. Deltaria in the past had send troops to protect us when the Dranish threatened to invade, and because of their presence here the Dranish backed down. We now propose that we repay Deltaria and sent a core group of military advisors to aid the Deltaria Military in modernizing and rebuilding so that they may protect themselves from the agression of Cobura. After the HLE, Deltaria is our oldest ally, and we shouldn't just leave them to be raped by the Coburians(OOC: I don't know if thats the right adjective).

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:02:30, August 20, 2007 CET
From Gao-Showa Imperial Party
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageWe are in full support of aiding the Deltarians against this unwarranted aggression and interference in their internal affairs.

Date20:37:49, August 20, 2007 CET
From Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageWe shall never support aiding a dictatorial government. Just because the aided us in the past does not mean we should help them now. Our international prestige will be greatly diminished if this bill is passed into law.

Date22:38:32, August 20, 2007 CET
From Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageThis will diminish our International Prestige!?!?! Excuse our sarcasm, however the MSP has not right to talk about diminishing how we are viewed throughout the world, as they have made us the laughing stock of Terra. Were it not for your childish antics and over zealous belief that because you are working on behalf of some pagan cultist God, perhaps the whole world would not think of us as a minor, useless nation. The Dual Monarchy is not some Artanian Pinko Democracy. We have our own way of doing things, and our own forms of government, however you refuse to respect those ideals. We had finally established ourselves as a major player in world affairs and the dominant force on the Dovani Continent only to have you destroy decades of work. So do not lecture us on "diminish our international prestige".

Date23:11:31, August 20, 2007 CET
From R.I.F.T.
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC:
As I am new to this game, I am unfamiliar with the events of prior aid given to us by the Deltarians.
I'm pretty sure I want to play my faction as isolationist yet honorable, so if they're an established close ally, I may be inclined to vote yes, but if they're really some distant nothing that gave us trivial support, then I'd go no. Since I have NO IDEA.... well....

Date00:04:17, August 21, 2007 CET
FromVonkajšíci
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC. Hustria & Gao-Soto (known then as Gishoto) harboured Welsh-Dranian refugees, who were suffering an ethnic cleansing at the hands of the Dranish. Dranland threatened invasion if Gishoto refused to send them to the Dranish killing fields. Deltaria (who was an enormous empire and the world's largest superpower at the time) stationed several divisions of the Horde in Gishoto and the Dranish backed down.

Date02:41:35, August 21, 2007 CET
From Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC: Thats pretty much exactly how it happened.

Date02:42:12, August 21, 2007 CET
From R.I.F.T.
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC:
That seems like a fairly significant ally, unless I'm missing something.

Date04:11:11, August 21, 2007 CET
From Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC: Well, I think we don't want an ally that murders its minorities.

Date05:11:55, August 21, 2007 CET
From Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC: And....

Date09:54:43, August 21, 2007 CET
FromVonkajšíci
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC ; R.I.F.T, Deltaria has suffered an economic collapse, hyperinflation, a civil war, and lost her colonial holdings since then. We dwarfed you in power during the Dranland crisis, but we no longer hold such military might. While we are a historically significant ally and friend, we are no longer a strategically significant ally in the short-term. But in the long-term, once nations are vulnerable to us again, we'll resurge and recreate the Deltarian Empire. It might take a month or two, or even longer, but you can rest assured that although we are weakened now, we remain the only nation in this game with enough devoted players to succeed in non-RP force-conquest, in which foreigners have no choice but to accept. We will, soon enough, be the most powerful nation in the world again.

Date16:58:18, August 21, 2007 CET
From Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageDeltaria shall never be powerful as long as it is suppressing its people.

Date18:34:01, August 21, 2007 CET
From Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageAgain, your young age as a party and stupidity preceed you, our friends in Deltaria controlled something like 4 other nations at the height of their power. And that was under the government of the the Czar, who was a personal friend of the Kaiser when he was reinstated.

Date18:39:53, August 21, 2007 CET
From Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageThat was then. This is now.

Date20:44:07, August 21, 2007 CET
FromSedliacke Povstanie
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageThank you, dear friends.

Tatjana Burova
Deltarian Business Commission

Date22:06:29, August 21, 2007 CET
From R.I.F.T.
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC: If it's true that they've had a totally revamped government in the time since their generous aid, then I am forced to not recognize them as the friendly government of before, and therefor I will not advise supporting them in this matter. RIFT is simply too isolationist to rely on any but our closest allies.

Date22:44:53, August 21, 2007 CET
From R.I.F.T.
ToDebating the Aid to Deltaria
MessageOOC:
ALSO
And wait just a dang minute here...
.....This is the same country that just a couple of days ago (In game, maybe 4 years?) had a bill titled "Shitting all over the Dual Monarchy of Hulstria and Gao-Soto". You seriously want to help these people? You're insane.

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