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Bill: Permanent War-Ready Status
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Arab Party of Kafuristan
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2448
Description[?]:
| In order to back our words with bombs we are proposing to engage in perpetual war-time consumption levels in order to be constantly prepared to engage enemies. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns all defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:23:43, August 28, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Urban Party | To | Debating the Permanent War-Ready Status |
| Message | If Defence industries would be privately owned, then we would be facing dangers of losing real control over our government. If the military would be able to arrest civilians, then control of a situation would no longer remain on the hands of the people. Military/National Service could remain on the current value, due to the fact that either way, our nation benefits. |
| Date | 23:30:34, August 28, 2007 CET | From | Machiavellian Interests Concern | To | Debating the Permanent War-Ready Status |
| Message | While we agree with two out of three articles of this bill, It is not possible to support a bill which try to rest control of any part of the military away from the state. Privately owned defense industries could lead to over pricing of new much valued military technology, if the bill came up again with only articles two and three we would be in support of it, but for now we must abstain. |
| Date | 02:11:21, August 29, 2007 CET | From |  National Arab Party of Kafuristan | To | Debating the Permanent War-Ready Status |
| Message | Liberals: No. Civilian national servicemen can only assist in natural disasters, manning AA guns, and emergencies. MIC: .... ... What if we turned a blind eye to industrial espionage and allow ANY organization to sell us the guns we want? |
| Date | 19:25:53, August 31, 2007 CET | From | Machiavellian Interests Concern | To | Debating the Permanent War-Ready Status |
| Message | NAPK - That could work, as it would premote much competition, we would have to heavily regulate said industries. But if that is what the provision actually calls for we woudl support it. |
| Date | 23:54:28, August 31, 2007 CET | From | Machiavellian Interests Concern | To | Debating the Permanent War-Ready Status |
| Message | We've decided that the two gains of this act out way what we view as a loss. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 157 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 221 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 127 |
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