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Bill: Military Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Regional Acronym Political Establishment
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2449
Description[?]:
As we live in a secular state, we should be able to screen out religious types. Women are essentially useless in combat and poofters aren't much better. Strength, honor, and power for all Telamon. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to have any place in the military.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 03:17:33, August 29, 2007 CET | From | Secular Humanist party | To | Debating the Military Reform |
Message | The proposal also includes racism, which is intolerable, and illogical. Farther more, the thought that women are useless in combat is highly flawed. While it is true that women on average, are physically weaker, it doesn't take superman to fire a gun. Tactical thinking, technical knowledge, and leadership, are far more important qualities in a warrior that physical strength. Farthermore, with extensive training, a woman can become very physically powerful. Lastly, there is no basis at all that homosexuality hs anything to do with combat ability. While article 3 may have some factual basis, albeit flawed, articles 1 and 2 are based on lies, superstition, and indoctrinated attitudes not un-religious in nature. We are utterly against this bill. |
Date | 03:23:04, August 29, 2007 CET | From | Regional Acronym Political Establishment | To | Debating the Military Reform |
Message | The male instinct is to protect women in peril, which may compromise the mission. The homosexual instinct is to sodomize, which may also compromise the mission. I find your reasoning deeply flawed. |
Date | 04:14:46, August 29, 2007 CET | From | Telamonese Cultural Alliance | To | Debating the Military Reform |
Message | This will effectively cut the size of the military in half. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 61 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 366 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 323 |
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