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Bill: The keeping of exotic animals.
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Centre and Unionists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2452
Description[?]:
| Recognising the current law in Solentia is valued and designed to be in the best interests of the safety of the public; The Union for Progression and Development feel that the time is right to begin to re-asses the situation regarding Exotic animals. We highly recommend that the keeping of Exotic animals be permitted by all members of the public as part of their rights to have pets of their choice and their individual right to run their home as they see fit; though we understand that such may be illegal and so we propose the following: Article 1- * Citizens of Solentia reserve the right to keep animals of their choice permitting their choice of animal is in correlation with articles 2 and 3. * Citizens of the Solentia have the right to purchase and keep exotic animals on their own private property and in their own homes. Article 2- * Animals of foreign origin (I.e.- non-Solentian animals) are required to be registered with the government. * Animals kept by Solentian citizens must not be a threat to others. * Whether or not an animal is a threat to another citizen of Solentia will be determined by the Exotic animal registration office who will provide an owner with a certificate to prove the safety of the animal. *The Office will also regulate, control and make anual reports about the effects of the presence of Exotic animals on the ecosystem. * The office will be responsible for determining if an animal is a threat to the ecosystem and whether or not the Governmental Environment Agency needs to place a restriction on a species due to tis threat. Article 3- * The government reserves the right to ban a particular species or breed of animal if it is deemed necessary via means of the Governmental Environment Agency. * The GEA may seize animals deemed dangerous or a threat to the public. * Local governments are responsible for the persecution of citizens found to be illegally harbouring dangerous animals or unregistered non-Solentian animals. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of exotic animals.
Old value:: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep exotic animals.
Current: Everyone may keep exotic animals, the trade in exotic animals is unregulated.
Proposed: Everyone may keep exotic animals, but the trade in exotic animals is regulated by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:31:22, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Currently, exotic animals are kept and maintained by professionals, it would interest the Labour Party to know what made the UPD feel exotic animals should be allowed to remain in anyones care, as only a certain amount of people have the competence, knowledge and training to look after these exotic animals and most of these people are found in Zoos. Bill Gray, Labour Party Environment Minister |
| Date | 21:40:32, September 02, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | The Union for Progression and Development point the Labour Party to read article 2 section 3; "Whether or not an animal is a threat to another citizen of Solentia will be determined by the Exotic animal registration office who will provide an owner with a certificate to prove the safety of the animal." If a citizen is unable to look after an exotic animal or be able to control such an animal; the Exotic animal registration office will be able to refuse to grant a certificate on the basis that an ill-treated or un-controlled animal; is a one that endangers the public. If a citizen is not competant at handling an animal of exotic nature; they will not be granted a certificate, for that would be a danger to society and the people around the citizen and/or animal. -UPD Shadow Environment and Tourism Secretary: Greggory Hancock |
| Date | 21:43:23, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | We oppose this legislation as it is a bill that is anti-environmental. It is not the right of citizens to potentially harm and destroy the essential and integral chain of life. Should a gap be created due to interference of natural life activities because of ownership of a rare species that is not situated normally in Solentia. There is no purpose and no benefit in owning an exotic animal. We do not see any other reasoning to this legislation and cannot be persuaded to change our mind on this topic. FIP Senator Paul Simon |
| Date | 21:46:56, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | We apologise to the UPD, for our oversight in this bill. We say to the UPD this- We recognise the fact that people should be allowed Pets in their homes. But we feel currently Zoos do a great deal at the moment in caring for exotic animals that perhaps ordinary people simply couldn't. What would you say to this? Bill Gray, Labour Party Environment Minister |
| Date | 21:55:11, September 02, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | We would reply simply that Animal Control and societies for the protection of animals are still in existance; if an animal is being mistreated, if an animal isnt getting the correct attention and care it deserves; Zoological institutes will be permitted and encouraged to intervene. We reply to the FIP that if the keeping of exotic animals is proved to have a significant damaging effect on the environment, then that animal may simply be added to the list of illegal and regulated species. The "purpose" and "benefit" of ownership of an exotic species is to minimalise the interfference of the government in people's private lifestyles and to prevent the infrignment of the right to keep a pet of your choice. Not all exotic species are "rare" Mr.Simon; The keeping of a parrot for a child's companion is not dangerous and does not affect the environment of Solentia. -UPD Shadow Environment and Tourism Secretary: Greggory Hancock |
| Date | 22:04:05, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | The Labour Party, as a modernising Centre Left party, hates to use this phrase but feels it is very much one which applys in this case and may well prevent our party from backing this bill. It's- "Don't tamper with a willing system." Old fashioned yet true we feel. Currently we have a fantastic system where exotic animals are recieving the best care and attention from trained professionals in a Zoo. If these laws were passed and came into place despite a good Animal Control Unit, exotic animals would be much much more likely to be hurt, injured, not looked after correctly and we feel that the Animal Control Unit wouldn't be able to control and keep informed on all of these cases. As a party, we look for imporvement, how would the law your proposing better the situation we have now apart from the obvious more freedom and choice for the public on owning pets. Billy Gray, Labour Shadow Environment Minister |
| Date | 22:09:31, September 02, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Of course we have concidered this; and it is for that reason that a citizen would be required to undergo an inspection and receive a certificate before being granted permission to look after a pet. -UPD Shadow Environment and Tourism Secretary: Greggory Hancock |
| Date | 22:13:18, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Well the Labour Party works closely with the people and would love to provide them with an opportunity to own these sorts of pets. We must ask how thorough the inspections and checks are after the amount of times people have slipped through the net in similar situations to this one, where inspections have failed us. It may be useful if the Justice or Interior Ministers from our Cabinet could inform us of this information. Bill Gray, Labour Shadow Environment Minister |
| Date | 22:15:43, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Sorry, if the Justice or Interior Ministers could give us clarity on the secruity of these inspections. |
| Date | 22:18:08, September 02, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Of course I would be glad to comment. I personally overlooked the process of suggesting this bill; and Imust say I was impressed by the thaught and concideration having gone into this legislation. As for the inspections; I am fully confident that the inspectinos will be enough to asses the suitability of not only the handling and care of the animal but the history of the owner and even more importantly; the suitability of the environment the animal is being placed in. Please be assured that these things have been thaught about and tackled and that if this legislation is supported; that the gain of freedom of choice; will NOT be at the expence of the animal's lives or quality of life. -UPD Shadow Secretary of Internal Affairs: Anna Rochelle |
| Date | 22:22:22, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | The Labour Party is currently undecided about this issue, but with the reassurance you have given us on the inspections we may back your bill. We will wait first for government clarification either Interior or Justice Minister may respond and will give us our final view then. Thank you to the UPD, for discussing these issues with us. Our final decision will be given in a few months time. |
| Date | 01:21:16, September 03, 2007 CET | From | Workers Party | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | The Workers Party doesn't feel that the present system works so badly that it needs to be reviewed. We could however back the UPD's proposal, if it would incorporate two of our concerns. First, the government agencies must have a say not only whether a certain animal is a threat to Solentian citizens, but also whether such animal is a threat to the Solentian Ecosystem. We should remind the dire consequences of the irresponsible introduction of the politailed squirrel (Funambulus multicaudata Skaa.) which caused the ruin of our softcork forests, due to the fact that it digests the softcork seeds, instead of expelling it unharmed, as it is the case of the Red Squirrel (Sciurus Flammifer Lin.) Second, discussing the ban of particular species is hardly a task for the Senate. The governmental environmental agency should be allowed to regulate such matters by executive orders; only cases of abuse should be brought upon the Senate. Emir Pavlovich Bronstein - Assessor for Environment and Echology Issues - Workers Party |
| Date | 02:45:01, September 03, 2007 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | Even so, we will not put an exotic animal in the hands of citizens. Aside from special institutions and organizations that understand how to take care of these beings, any exotic animal brought to Solentia is an invasive species which violates the ability of domestic animals to live their lives successfully. It is a simple fact that domestic animals will have great difficulty to no chance of surviving when having to compete with a foreign animal. Invasive species are illegal in most countries that value the life cycle. FIP Ranking Senator Paul Simon |
| Date | 11:45:00, September 03, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | The UPD understands the views and concerns of the FIP and inquire if there is any clauses that could be removed or added to the bill; that would allow for the FIP's support. The UPD aslo thanks the Workers Party for their valued contribution and shall make approproate adjustments to the bill. -UPD Shadow Environment and Tourism Secretary: Greggory Hancock |
| Date | 15:51:29, September 04, 2007 CET | From | Workers Party | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | With the modifications the UPD provided, we shall vote for this bill. Emir Pavlovich Bronstein - Assessor for Environment and Echology Issues - Workers Party |
| Date | 19:19:13, September 04, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the The keeping of exotic animals. |
| Message | As a Party for choice, we want to allow our people to have choice in owning pets. Bill Gray, Labour Shadow Enivronmnent and Tourism Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 130 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 295 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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