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Bill: Citizenship Definition
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2100
Description[?]:
| This bill is to require all nationals to take a qualifying exam to earn citizenship. According to law, an immigrant must pass a test to become a national. The Radical Conservative Party believes that a person must be knowledgable of the country in order to vote. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: not recorded
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is gained by passing a qualifying exam.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:59:39, August 15, 2005 CET | From |  Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | Against |
| Date | 04:04:32, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Radical Conservative Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | I'm gonna get you guys on one, one day. One day... |
| Date | 04:07:43, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Radical Conservative Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | (Bangs head on table) Must...(bang)...have...(bang)...good idea. |
| Date | 04:56:38, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Third Way Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | What are you going to do if a person does not pass your test? How will the test be made in a way that is not discriminatory? |
| Date | 09:47:37, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | I'm gonna vote no on this one, sorry. I agree that imigrants should have to pass a test, and thats the way it is, but not nationals. |
| Date | 21:02:45, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Radical Conservative Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | If immigrants can do it, why can't the nationals? |
| Date | 12:49:19, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | In responce to the RCP, because for nationals its unnecessary and a bit of a civil rights problem. When are you going to test them? Obviously not when they're first born. So when they're 18, when they can first start voting? Fine, but currently they've been living under these laws for 18 years before they can vote anyway, surely they should get an oppurtunity to change them? The government shouldn't be able to set tests for who can and can't vote for nationals, its just too open to corruption. Its a necessary evil for immigrants, as they can potentionally vote after being in the country less than a couple of years, so it is possible without the tests they wouldn't know enough to vote sensibly. Someone who's been living in the country for 18 years however, and was brought up there, is likely to have picked up a bit of knowledge about the country, certianly enough to vote. That's my opinion anyway. I like parts of the idea in theory, it adds to the whole equality thing, but in practice I think its a bit pointless and detracts from peoples' civil rights more than necessary. |
| Date | 09:04:13, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | The Liberty Party supports, in principle, the notion that people who desire to come to a country permanently should demonstrate some sort of commitment to join in with the community. However, we cannot see how this can reasonably be done in practice, and until then we cannot vote for any measure that requires testing. |
| Date | 18:41:38, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Citizenship Definition |
| Message | This bill is a good idea, but only immigrants should take because a person born in this nation shouldn't take a test just to have rights. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 217 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 337 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 1 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow official national flags of real-life nations or flags which are very prominent and recognisable (eg. the flags of the European Union, the United Nations, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or the Confederate States of America). |
| Random quote: "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson |