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Bill: CP Welfare Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2451
Description[?]:
| With this important reform: - Darnussians will be totally free to organize/plan their retirement individually and accordingly to their own needs, possibilities and discretion; - Hard working Darnussians will not have to pay anymore the incomes of those who do not work (nor want to) and are living at the expense of the State. The Government will only provide support (a subsistence income) to: - Individuals whom cannot work due to physical/mental disabilites; - Individuals whom for a period of time do not find a job due to professional or health reasons. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:13:22, September 05, 2007 CET | From | Party for the Republic | To | Debating the CP Welfare Reform |
| Message | We might, after some consideration, support Article One, was it not accompanied by Article Two. |
| Date | 19:31:38, September 05, 2007 CET | From | Jewish-Christian Alliance of Patriots | To | Debating the CP Welfare Reform |
| Message | Too much. |
| Date | 19:57:55, September 05, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the CP Welfare Reform |
| Message | We really don't see why healthy and able bodied ADULTS, not supported by another person, should be guaranteed a subsistence income by the Government, instead of looking for a job. In fact, currently the State is paying these group of parasites, created by the previous Governments, to stay at home doing nothing for ANY GIVEN REASON. Our resolution is responsible: «The Government will only provide support (a subsistence income) to: - Individuals whom cannot work due to physical/mental disabilites; - Individuals whom for a period of time do not find a job due to professional or health reasons.» We call upon the Patriot Party to reconsider its position on this issues. |
| Date | 23:52:03, September 06, 2007 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the CP Welfare Reform |
| Message | Woohoo, this is great news for criminals abd extremists. Poor people can now only turn into crime. Conservative Party is doing a great job! |
| Date | 00:50:43, September 07, 2007 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the CP Welfare Reform |
| Message | Sometimes there might not be enough jobs to fill. What do you do then, punish them? The country that you are trying to makecan't control the amount of jobs because everything is privatized. You just leave them to suffer and escape all responsibilities of your previous actions. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 115 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 166 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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