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Bill: Recognition of National Strength & Merit
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Cildanian Egoists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2451
Description[?]:
| RESOLVED: That our nation should recognize and applaud strength and proven merit, rather than enabling weakness and rewarding non-contributors. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: Child benefit policies are left to local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:23:37, September 05, 2007 CET | From |  Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | To coddle the weak is to spit in the face of the strong, for the funds used to do so are ripped from the hands of the individuals who earned them through the sweat of their brow. The nation should not be in the business of rewarding weakness and encouraging dependency. The only way the weak shall ever become strong and worthy is if they are forced to *fight* for that advancement, and when we grease the wheels for them we detract from the worth of their struggle. |
| Date | 20:02:34, September 05, 2007 CET | From | War is Peace Party | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Wow! I didn't know there were any social darwinists left. |
| Date | 21:36:34, September 05, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Many are those who in their heart of hearts believe these truths. In our media saturated modern "democracies" the strong feel the need to disguise themselves as weak, and to take on as their burden the support of the inept and worthless, because they believe that if they do not the ants will rise up to tear them down, for the weak and petty cannot stomach the success of others, the image of what they could attain if they strove and struggled, rather than begged and pleaded. Corrupt indeed is the culture which tries to force the greatest to masquerade as if they were the least, in order to appease those of lesser heart and mind. Corrupt is well is the man of strength who gives in to such pressure, sacrificing his manhood by enslaving himself to the whims of the worthless. |
| Date | 23:17:31, September 05, 2007 CET | From | War is Peace Party | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Are you seriously this much of a fascist? |
| Date | 23:42:26, September 05, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Fascist? Fascism believes in the power and rightful supremacy of the state. This party advocates for the power and rightful supremacy of the individual, and for governmental non-interference in society to the greatest extent reasonably possible. The policies under consideration here are a simple restoration of law to recognizing the true state of nature. The greatest crime which can be committed against the strong is to allow the weak to tear them down. The greatest crime which can be committed against the weak is removing their incentive to become strong. Systems promoting so-called "Welfare" steal from those who have contributed the most, and utilize the funds to enable those who live as parasites on the back of society. |
| Date | 00:31:27, September 06, 2007 CET | From | War is Peace Party | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Some of us believe it is the resposibility of the strong to protect the weak. Might for right not might is right. |
| Date | 00:53:14, September 06, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | The Justice League opposes all forms of stealing, be it from the productive or parasitic. However the alternative to forced welfare does not have to be nearly as draconian as the WiJG suggests. If you wish to help the poor or unemployed, in a free society you are welcome to do so, and are even encouraged to do so by charities. But the principle must remain that whatever income redistribution occurs in a society, is done so voluntarily. In a proper system of justice, no other man has claim on what you produce, and what you earn cannot be taken away from you. |
| Date | 08:04:15, September 06, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | Indeed. Might for right. It is right to wish the weak to grow strong. Protecting them from the consequences of their actions, or supporting programs which encourage them to remain weak, these are not things which will aid in that endeavor. |
| Date | 09:07:30, September 06, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the Recognition of National Strength & Merit |
| Message | We applaud these proposals. They serve the purpose of opening the eyes of the proletariat of the true aims of ruling class and can only serve to increase revolutionary fervor across all of Cildania's workers. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 176 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 182 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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