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Bill: In Support of Self Defense
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Cildanian Egoists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2453
Description[?]:
| RESOLVED: That individuals and companies should make provisions for their own safety, not rely on the government to provide it for them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: The government makes no provision for civil defence.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:49:09, September 08, 2007 CET | From |  Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the In Support of Self Defense |
| Message | Didn't Rand say one of the few proper roles of government is to protect the society from domestic and foreign aggression? You're not representing your nomenclature very well... |
| Date | 18:39:29, September 08, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the In Support of Self Defense |
| Message | First of all, the government best protects by making sure the bombs never fall. Second of all, if you want a fallout shelter in your home or business, build it. Given how inept the government is, you will probably be better off that way, even if the government has built shelters. (And on a side note, I have only read Rand's fiction, from which the phrase "Who is John Galt?" derives, not her non-fiction. Fiction is a much better vehicle for promotion of philosophy and truth than non-fiction, and the messages the author sends are not always confined to those which were meant to be sent. Reasoning minds can disagree as to what lessons should be drawn from the scenario and characters of Atlas Shrugged.) |
| Date | 06:03:09, September 09, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the In Support of Self Defense |
| Message | If a government is no going to defend it's own citizens than what use is that government? If you haven't noticed the continent our nation is on is ravaged by war with nations at various times under occupation. We have a number of rather nasty fascist inspired dictatorships. Many of which possess weapons of mass destruction. If anything we need to expand our civil defense network. And if this resolution fails that is exactly what we'll propose. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 142 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 212 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 71 |
| Random fact: There are two countries based on Egypt in the game. Cobura is based on modern Egypt with a retro twist, while Hawu Mumenhes is based on Ancient Egypt with a modernist twist. |
| Random quote: "The empires of the future are the empires of the mind." - Winston Churchill |