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Bill: Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices
Details
Submitted by[?]: Mouvement des Conservateurs
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2097
Description[?]:
| Fellow politicians, To protect our citizens from market damage we might want to come up with a fixed price list to ensure life-needed goods prices don't reaches astronomical high levels. According to our national food sales policy, vendors have to apply for a license by their local government before they can start business. So this gives us the advantage to obligate vendors agreeing with this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FOOD VENDOR LICENSE This license is provided by the local authority of (name) on (date). This license gives the vendor the possibility to sell life-needed goods. Art. 1: As a food vendor, he has to apply for a food selling license by his local authority. Art. 2: As a food vendor, he has to agree with all the articles written in the license and the articles concerning food safety as provided by our national government. Art. 3: As a food vendor, if selling products from the FPL (Fixed Prices List), has to obtain the provided gross-prices as prices for his products. Art. 4: As a food vendor, if selling products not written in the FPL, has to display a price list on the outside of the store, perfectly visible for the potential costumers. Art. 5: As a food vendor, not obtaining the articles above he will penalized with closure. The Fixed Prices List is added to this document as an attachment. This is an official document, formulated in 3 copies, and has to be kept in store for supervision. (Signed Vendor) (Signed Local Authority) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To establish the FPL, we have to create on, I was hoping on proposals from the National Forum. Thanks in advance Regards |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Current: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Proposed: The government subsidises agriculture based on market demand for the crop being grown.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning farm size.
Old value:: Farms that grow too large are broken up and the land redistributed.
Current: Farm size is not regulated.
Proposed: Farm size is not regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:17:51, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Beach Party | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | What if food vendors stop stocking items on the FPL in favour of more profitable items, and then there is a national shortage? |
| Date | 21:21:29, August 15, 2005 CET | From |  Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | That is most unlikely, unless the economy is on the edge of breakdown....or if we are at war. |
| Date | 21:44:39, August 15, 2005 CET | From | Beach Party | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | Still, would be nice to force all food vendors to stock minimum levels of FPL foods. |
| Date | 00:06:28, August 16, 2005 CET | From | CCP | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | It may be possible that by so decisively limiting small-capital vendors' discretion in investment and moving further to restrict profit potential, we may too focefully curtail import incentives, hinder small-capital entrepenueralism, and help to create a reticent and discouraging atmosphere within the market. Maintaining sufficient government reserves of such vital resources and distributing them at low or no charge where appropriate may be a viable alternative. I very much want to support you here, KP. Please convince us that this proposal is the best course of action for us. |
| Date | 01:09:13, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | If a local market does is not supplied by life-needed-food stockage, the sector will stagnate on that area. Changes of that happen are 2 out of 10 - 1 change local areas population is so small no vendors wanted to invest in a lifestock store. 2 change if the purchase price reaches the selling price we recorded on the FPL if this situation comes forward, we just raise the prices or in change 1 attract a big market chain with attractive conditions. |
| Date | 02:23:24, August 16, 2005 CET | From | CCP | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | For chance 1, I think it's possible that local prospective investors would first feed themselves (by herding livestock) and subsequently notice the high local market potential and feel encouraged to invest. Large corporations would have much less incentive to invest, which is good, because it will help the economy to expand. For chance 2, pushing the Fixed Price up strikes me as hostile to the intent of the FPL. Since we cannot control prices of imported goods, we cannot confidently say how far above or below the Fixed Price the purchase price will be. So, if the purchase price were to rise and push the Fixed Price upward, we'd be charging the Country's low-wage citizens high prices for life-needed goods. But also, KP/LD, I wonder if this proposal is really neccesary. Basic Neccessities like grain and water can never really be priced too unreasonably high in a healthy economy because, in extreme cases of price hikes, the country's people would eventually take some form of revolt. And businesses in a healthy economy would not want that because it would depress productivity and eventually depress profits. KP/LD, could you give us some examples of what might be on the list? |
| Date | 21:21:20, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beach Party: - We can not force vendors to stock a certain amount of goods, it could damage their yearly budget. - Vendors taking advantage from a lower tax rate will miss out very soon because on a free market the competition is though, no vendor will consider keeping their old prices. The consumer is smart enough and often know where they can buy the cheapest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Market damage like the raise of oil prices and manufacture products could lead towards price peaks on life-needed goods, this only damages citizens and most of all the less fortunated ones. The FPL could keep the damage between limits a bit, however I think it would be better to come up with variable maximums for products like grain, flour, water, eggs & milk. Keeping them variable gives us the possibility to raise or lower the maximums in parallel with market demand or index-linked wages. |
| Date | 22:14:47, August 16, 2005 CET | From | CCP | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | Are you totally against the idea of maintaining goverment reserves as an alternative? |
| Date | 22:21:14, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | To maintain government reserves not entirely, if some publicly needed industries are in full or half ownership of the government an amount of life-needed products can be stored in case of emergency. What I'm opposing is obligating food vendors to store a certain amount of goods in case needed, that could lead to quite some unwanted or unfavourable investments that could become more a burden then a bless. |
| Date | 01:28:33, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | Fellow politicians, I added 2 proposal articles concerning this issue. To deal with the potential risk of life-needed good shortage it would be wisely to control the market that produces it. Not exactly control it but put in a helping hand when needed. If the market demand increases we can subsidize (article 1) agriculture industries to produce more and by that to expand (article 2). Increasing production lowers the prices. |
| Date | 23:33:07, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Beach Party | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | A few government store dealing only in life needed goods would more than likely be better than forcing vendors to stock them. We could help keep prices down and make sure there is no short fall. |
| Date | 00:04:43, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Good's Tax Rearrangement Act II - Fixed Prices |
| Message | As we take this bill proposal towards voting level I want to thank every party for their constructive and supporting debate! Regards |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 71 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 4 |
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