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Bill: Working Class Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: Peoples Revolutionary Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2500
Description[?]:
I can only hope Morality Exists In some of your minds here.... |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: All banks are privately owned.
Current: The government operates and owns all banks.
Proposed: The government operates and owns all banks.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is entirely voluntary.
Current: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is entirely private.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities nationwide.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 04:30:51, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | Its too much too far Action are undecied about weither or not to support it. |
Date | 04:44:53, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | Government health care, plus heavy government regulation of private health care to ensure "quality". Laughable. Unless of course you want our citizens flocking to other nations for their health care. When health care is nationalized, quality drops, and all who can afford to do so go to other nations for superior, more expensive care, while the poor suffer under a uniformly bad system. |
Date | 07:07:30, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | National Healthcare if properly funded and regulated and not based on the 1936 system, but rather on the see and treat principle are among the best in the world. there is no reason for private health care to be superior, the cases of people dying while the hospitals run a credit check, while extremely rare and over-sensationalised show that fact. but also that If a hospital is run as a buisiness then it is run solely to make a profit, not to ensure the quality of the service or the success rate. yes there are some private hospotals run as hospitals, but they are by far in the minority |
Date | 08:28:47, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | The reason quality of care is superior in non-nationalized systems is very simple. Doctors go through very expensive education for a long period of years. The best doctors usually want the best pay. The best pay comes from private healthcare. Nationalized systems generally end up getting the doctors who couldn't get higher paying jobs somewhere else. In some cases money isn't everything. In health care it is. |
Date | 11:16:42, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | In societies which arnt completely market dominated, where greed is not the most powerfull emotion and the media, education, government and indeed those people conditioned into sadi society implant constantly the cult of mammon into the minds of their childern the NHS is the most successfull of systems. The quality is assured above all else and cost is secondary to conditions, The health of the people is seen as more important and so those doctors do to the hospitals where they can do the most good and gain the highest level of pride from doing so. |
Date | 11:21:40, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | Action violently disagrees with article two but will support this bill. Action beleives in competition, and would prefer a State-run National Bank to run alongside smaller banking establishments. |
Date | 16:58:13, December 11, 2007 CET | From | Red Anarchy Faction | To | Debating the Working Class Reforms |
Message | We totally oppose article 3 and will seek the reversal of it, but we agree with the rest so we will vote yes. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 16 | |||
no | Total Seats: 45 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 14 |
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