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Bill: Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Beluzian Workers Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2456
Description[?]:
| An Act to end the subsidizing of tuition for the rich and affluent middle class, and prioritize eductional spending on those who most deserve assistance |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Current: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Proposed: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:56:21, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | I am actually against this, it is the student who pays, not the parents. (ooc im starting University tomorrow, and will not be entitled to any support from the government) |
| Date | 21:46:31, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Beluzia and Bailon | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | Keep education free! |
| Date | 22:54:42, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Catholic Nationalist Union | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | Anyone who believes the rich don't need education isn't paying attention to the newspapers. The nourishing light of the Beluzian Catholic Church believes that education should be wholly embraced by the state. |
| Date | 23:05:14, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | (ooc: Excepting the loan or nothing at all? If you're only receiving the loan then believe me, I feel your pain! I'm working on the idea that you are British if you aren't...don't hit me! Even if only in the metaphorical sense). |
| Date | 16:56:08, September 17, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | The point was not that the rich do not deserve and education - the point was that they can afford one. The only thing 100% subsidized tutition does is limit the number of students that can go to university. Basically, I works this way: - in complete/partially subsidized systems, the government funds a fixed number of berths at universities - students then compete to achieve the highest grade (and/or any other qualifications that are required); - in non-subsidized systems, the number of students who can afford tuition determines the number of university berths; What I am proposing is that, by focusing the Government's limited resources on those who cannot afford to pay tuition, we can raise the total number of students able to attend university. Assuming tutition in Beluzia costs an average of 10,000 BEL per student, and assuming that college-aged students form about 10% of the population, this would mean that there are approximately 15,000,000. This would cost Beluzia's Education Ministry 150 billion (150,000 million) BEL per year. Even if both these numbers were overestimated by half (only 7.5 million students wish to attend college, costing 5,000 BEL per year), this would still cost 37.5 billion BEL per year - 13.5 billion BEL more than we spend on Education and Health care combined. Now, if we assume that only 15% of this student population is unable to either pay tuition, nor obtain a loan for the amount, this leaves a very different picture. 1.5 million students receiving fully-subsidized tuition of 10,000 BEL per year would cost 15 billion BEL per year - easily within our current education spending. Government subsidized education only makes sense for those who could not already afford the costs. |
| Date | 15:38:14, September 19, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Fair Tuition Subsidy Act (2455) |
| Message | OOC im british... and somewhat poor at the moment! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 292 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 312 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 146 |
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