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Bill: Action- Basic Standards of Living
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2457
Description[?]:
| That the state guarantees the essentials of life to all her nationals. These are all volunteery, so those whos pride or political beleifs would not allow themselves to accept a hand out need not have one forced upon them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 75
Current: 75
Proposed: 65
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: All housing is privately-owned.
Current: Housing policy is to be determined by local governments.
Proposed: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:13:55, September 15, 2007 CET | From |  Action | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | We need a discussion on what the Tax Rate should be changed too. which would be included in this bill |
| Date | 07:49:56, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | We can go along with this. |
| Date | 08:49:16, September 15, 2007 CET | From | War is Peace Party | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | everything looks good. Might want to raise the retirement age just a few years but I could vote for this. |
| Date | 13:29:06, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | The retirement age is voluntery. Is it so much an issue, 61 not havinf five anywhere in it pleases me somehow. -Tombs |
| Date | 17:16:11, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | Retirement is always voluntary. In combination with your pension plan, this 61 is not the age at which one may retire, one could retire at 30 if sufficiently successful. Nay, 61 is the age you propose these people be allowed to become leeches upon the system. Please, do not be so naive as to argue that they paid into the public pension, and so are "getting their money back". Given the combined forces of inflation and increasing life expectancy in modern culture, a retirement age of 61 will ensure that those who take advantage of it will receive substantially more than they invest, and the system will degenerate into one where the current generation of workers are paying the bills of the last, rather than their own. As to the rest, it is appropriate that your party has chosen red, Action, for Red is what you are. As if fair Cildania were not already plagued with enough collectivists. |
| Date | 15:52:42, September 16, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | Action, both under the previous and Tombstone leadership stands against the principles of both Collectism and Liberalism, We are the party of the Small Buisnessman and the Patriot. We beleive that in the face of current conditions how can any international system weither it be copitalist or socialist maintain the Cildanian standard of life, yet alone increase it to high levels that modern science makes possible and that our great people deserve. [as to Red, our uniform is a boiled-Blue a colour far to close to one already used for a Cildanian Party.] |
| Date | 18:24:45, September 17, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | No, ICE is right, a corporate state is very collectivist thinking. |
| Date | 00:30:23, September 18, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- Basic Standards of Living |
| Message | We find your description of the bill offensive. You refer to it as "voluntary", because people can choose whether to receive stolen money from the government. It is most certainly *not* voluntary for those from whom the money is stolen in the first place. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 122 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 248 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 55 |
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