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Bill: Preparation does not mean preservation
Details
Submitted by[?]: National People's Gang
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2098
Description[?]:
| There are no plans - so far - to give local authorities the power to decide when to pull the nuclear trigger. There is therefore no reason for them to burden their tax payers with the cost of providing selective survival facilities. This will allow an enormous tax cut, as provision of nuclear shelters is extremely expensive and their effectiveness is unproven. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: Local authorities are responsible for building and maintaining shelters.
Current: No new buildings may be constructed unless they feature provisions for civil defence.
Proposed: The government makes no provision for civil defence.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:51:52, August 17, 2005 CET | From |  National People's Gang | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | It is inappropriate for local authorities to decide who will live and who will die in the event of a nuclear exchange. If people fear a nuclear holocaust and wish to survive it, let them build their own shelters. If people either don't fear a nuclear holocaust, or do not wish to survive one, they can choose to spend their money on education, medical treatment, a pension, a sports car or a ski lodge in the mountains. |
| Date | 18:24:46, August 17, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | If the people want defence, they will pay for defence out of their own pockets! I say give them a tax cut, and if they want, they can pay for defence out of the money they save. If they don't want to spend on defence, who are we to force them to spend on defence? |
| Date | 18:41:41, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | Because it is the government's responsibility, its only responsibility, to defend its citizens. |
| Date | 22:26:51, August 17, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | What? All of them? In nuclear-proof shelters? Local authorities are going to need a huge amount of cash. |
| Date | 22:33:47, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | We also object to this bill being considered part of TiC's series. |
| Date | 00:55:30, August 18, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | Where's the funding coming from? |
| Date | 02:36:06, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | Peepul, we request a change in the name of this bill to "Military Preparedness -1", or else drop the whole "Military Preparedness" series. |
| Date | 04:55:31, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | Just let it be as a bad joke TiC. This is the typical childishness of the left. |
| Date | 05:59:36, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | Or rather, of Albert/Peepul/Equitista/2nd June/etc. |
| Date | 23:14:51, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Preparation does not mean preservation |
| Message | we will support the rights of local governments here. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 57 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 393 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: By default the head of government is the ultimate authority within a national government. In general terms, heads of government are expected to consult with cabinet colleagues (including those from other parties) before making significant decisions but they remain responsible for government action. |
| Random quote: "The state is nothing but an instrument of oppression of one class by another, no less so in a democratic republic than in a monarchy." - John Smith |