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Bill: Budget proposal of October 2462
Details
Submitted by[?]: Stoic Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2463
Description[?]:
| The Stoic Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Provinces of Zardugal. Same bill as before, I am sure we can get this passed, last time we just didn't have the delegate turn out, but hopefully this will change this time around. This is dire, we are running up a debt and citizens are being taxed to great hights and still cannot pay our current budget. If we can get this budget passed finally we can create a tax cut and make all those deregulations of industry useful, both I and the people of Zardugal will thank you. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 25,986,179,937 ZAR | 10,000,000 ZAR | 10,000,000 ZAR |
| Foreign Affairs | 35,986,179,937 ZAR | 10,000,000,000 ZAR | 4,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Internal Affairs | 25,986,179,937 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Finance | 19,986,179,937 ZAR | 10,000,000,000 ZAR | 1,500,000,000 ZAR |
| Defence | 54,152,020,700 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Justice | 20,986,179,937 ZAR | 80,000,000,000 ZAR | 25,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 25,986,179,937 ZAR | 200,000,000,000 ZAR | 25,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Health and Social Services | 140,986,179,937 ZAR | 70,000,000,000 ZAR | 4,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Education and Culture | 140,986,179,937 ZAR | 150,000,000,000 ZAR | 150,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Science and Technology | 25,986,179,937 ZAR | 15,000,000,000 ZAR | 1,500,000,000 ZAR |
| Food and Agriculture | 23,486,179,937 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR | 4,000,000,000 ZAR |
| Environment and Tourism | 60,120,476,570 ZAR | 10,000,000,000 ZAR | 1,500,000,000 ZAR |
| Trade and Industry | 50,986,179,937 ZAR | 100,000,000,000 ZAR | 1,500,000,000 ZAR |
| Total | 651,620,476,577 ZAR | 945,010,000,000 ZAR | 418,010,000,000 ZAR |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:51:47, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | Do we need that much for food & agriculture and infrastructure & transport? I would like to see a little explaination for the changes to vote for this bill. |
| Date | 15:07:44, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Stoic Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | The reason that I am lowering the spending so much and in those areas is because right now we do not provide, healthcare, welfare, we don't substidize farms or business, nor give out science grants. We dabble a little in infrastructure and justice, but the main thing this government is set up to do is defense, internal, and education. The problem is, we are putting all this money into areas that see no return, we tax citizens at upwards of 85% of their pay, yet still only come up with 659 billion, we are running a debt. If we can cut spending we can give a tax cut to the citizens, this will increase the overall quality of life and stimulate economic growth. Troyka Barren, Minister of Finance |
| Date | 15:30:35, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | Do we really need 4,000,000,000 ZAR for food and agriculture? |
| Date | 15:56:44, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Stoic Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | Well it is a buffer in case something goes wrong, we don't a natural dissater to happen and not have any money for food. We can always lower it later if it doesn't prove useful. - Troyka Barren, Minister of Finance |
| Date | 16:35:37, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | Okay, you'll get the NAM-vote. |
| Date | 19:27:07, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Ancient and Noble Order of the Cavaliers | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | "Only forty votes will put this nation back in the black, thank God!" -Sir Harold Fox, DM |
| Date | 09:35:36, September 30, 2007 CET | From | Neo-Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | The science and technology and trade cuts are much too harsh. Present us with the same budget and more leniency in those two areas and we will approve. |
| Date | 09:42:17, September 30, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of October 2462 |
| Message | "Surely as a fellow Libertarian, you'd know that we no longer distort the market with public science and technology institutions or nationalized industries?" ~President Rowan Payne |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 245 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 81 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 75 |
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| Random quote: "Terror is only justice: prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country." - Maximilien Robespierre |