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Bill: A Republic Once More
Details
Submitted by[?]: Royal Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2099
Description[?]:
| Lodamun shall be called 'The Federal Republic of Lodamun' and its governing body shall be a Parliament. Requires 2/3rds to pass. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Citizens Assembly
Current: National Congress
Proposed: Parliament
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The method used to determine the number of seats each region receives in the national legislature.
Old value:: A pseudo-proportional algorithm that gives considerable advantage to smaller regions.
Current: Equal representation, regardless of region population.
Proposed: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:57:43, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Pass this and I will vote for new elections. |
| Date | 16:05:02, August 18, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | If this is put to a vote, and it seems likely to pass, then new elections are voted for, this bill will be bounced and return to debate. Also, add the proportional algorithm representation article. |
| Date | 16:29:16, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Added |
| Date | 17:25:12, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Again, would you consider a compromsie value such as "Federal Republic"? |
| Date | 22:26:57, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | We support this. |
| Date | 00:34:32, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | I suggest the bills are included together, such as "give and take" I and II If you take care of this, mine will be removed. |
| Date | 19:59:02, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | I could compromise with Federal Republic |
| Date | 21:55:15, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | We still see no reason to offer new elections to those that don't like being in the opposition. They offered nothing to us while they were in power, why should they expect anything to be offered now? |
| Date | 22:54:45, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | "We still see no reason to offer new elections to those that don't like being in the opposition. They offered nothing to us while they were in power, why should they expect anything to be offered now?" Because we are better people than they are. We value freedom, they pay lip service to it. We offer concessions, compromises and deals; they use these compromise bills as a basis for accusations against us. We propose parliamentary procedure, they prevent it from passing, then object when I fail to abide by a bill that did not pass. We dont have to stoop to their level. If they are willing to help us create a freer Lodamun, I am willing to offer them what they want to achieve this. However, if they make demands that are unreasonable or fail to hold up their end of the bargain; if they refuse to act in good faith towards us, we will not entertain the possibility of allowing them to betray us. "In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube." http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/street/pl38/comp.htm |
| Date | 23:26:19, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | in that case, the same question i keep asking (and will stop if someone says "no"): Again, would you consider a compromise value such as "Federal Republic"? |
| Date | 00:04:05, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | (Federal Republic is acceptable to us, as we have stated before) |
| Date | 03:10:42, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Not willing to change the algorithm. |
| Date | 03:10:57, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Not willing to change the algorithm. However, potentially yes. |
| Date | 05:54:39, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the A Republic Once More |
| Message | Federal Republic is fine. Opposed to changing the name of the Citizens Assembly back to parliament however, so we must vote no. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 202 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 172 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 76 |
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