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Bill: Software Patent Act 2097
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationalist Freedom Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2100
Description[?]:
| A proposal to allow software patents. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The patenting of software techniques.
Old value:: Software designs, techniques, formulae and algorithms cannot be patented.
Current: Software patents can be obtained from the patent office.
Proposed: Software patents can be obtained from the patent office.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:05:08, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | We strongly oppose this bill. As I said in the last debate on the topic http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=11897 (the part about algorithms, not works of art) it would be like Newton patenting the gravitational law and the EU rejected a similar bill twice in the past years. It would slow down innovation, as patenting an obvious but crucial result stops other people from researching on a topic and damage NFP's loved economy creating monopolies. To get a feeling of what this bill would mead, have a look to these few Microsoft patents http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220050156873%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20050156873&RS=DN/20050156873 patenting emoticones http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220050023524%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20050023524&RS=DN/20050023524 patenting the display of latitudes and longitudes on URL http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040230959&RS=DN/20040230959 patenting THE LOGICAL OPERATOR "IsNot" !!!!! http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,812,926.WKU.&OS=PN/6,812,926&RS=PN/6,812,926 patenting the idea of using a broken bar in a x-y bar graph when some of the items are too big and displaying them in scale woud make the others invisible. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,803,926.WKU.&OS=PN/6,803,926&RS=PN/6,803,926 patenting dynamical programming. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,785,865.WKU.&OS=PN/6,785,865&RS=PN/6,785,865 patenting web navigation using a keybord !!! If they were enforced (and they aren't because in RL this bill as rejected) they would virtually stop any further development of computer technology. |
| Date | 18:21:18, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | If , lets say microsoft spend a large amount of money and time to create a new software, that lets say, helps you design a wedding or something, then I don't see why they shouldn't have a patent on it! Patents are there to reward companies that spend time and money and create good software technology. They expire after a while. The government controls them. We won't get many research,development and technology compnaies (all knowledge based industries) into Kanjora (when they bring in economy) if we don't let them be rewarded. Thats all. It doesn't affect the ordinary citizen of Kanjora. |
| Date | 00:17:06, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | I agree with SHP. Although, it makes sense to allow copyright of programs, we should not allow the copyright of techniques, formulae and algorithms. This makes little sense and doesn't fly in RL either. It sets limits and restrictions on the advancement of several fields. Just look at how ridiculous some of the above examples are. Do we want that sort of nonsense in Kanjor? |
| Date | 15:26:05, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | But they'llbe obtained from the patent office and controlled by us. It does fly with RL too. So what you're saying is, you set up a company called KPP Ltd. and I set up one called NFP Ltd. My company doesn't do any work. Your company spends years and millions of dollars/euro/pounds/yen whatever on a new software programme. In most RL countries, you'll get a patent, me it a year, two year or 5 years on that depending ont eh amount time and money you had to spend on it. A sort remmuneration for your investment. -= Now, what your saying is, under your preferred system, my company NFP Ltd. which did absolutely nothing, spent no money, no time, can simply just walk into your offices, photcopy the blueprints and make the software ourselves. - Now when that happens, and KPP Ltd goes bankrupt, do you think any technnology, research, pharmaceutical or development company in the world is going to come to this country? - How is that Capitalist, KPP? I thought you proposed a re-introduction of Capitalism? - Are you flipp-flopping on Capitalism with me, just like you flipp-flopped on weapons with KNP??? |
| Date | 00:01:14, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | I'll give my opinion in the form of vote. |
| Date | 17:07:30, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | So now you can't even debate this either? you're not willing to take facts on board. |
| Date | 03:40:17, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | I was going to vote yes. Stop jumping to conclusions. |
| Date | 12:03:28, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | How can you vote yes to such a proposal? How can anyone vote yes? When a big softwere major will patent the algorithms to perform additions and multiplications what will you do? Do you know that in these days Microsoft patented the iPods (because Apple didn't do it in advance) and Apple, who invented them, might be required to pay for every iPod sold? |
| Date | 19:16:32, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | You know what. I'm not even sure I'll vote on this g-d forsaken bill at all. The pros and cons are to blasted crazy to deal with. |
| Date | 19:17:00, August 21, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | Put it to a vote and find out which side the coin flips on if you like. |
| Date | 16:17:20, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | KPP, You are an intelligent person. I hope you'll reflect on the big message that I typed earlier on. Its in accordance with normal law for most countries. Its important for capitalism and business. |
| Date | 16:18:19, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | By the way, on the main page there is a link to all the currenies of the world, there you will see that out economy isn't doing too well. I blame it on laws like the current which prevent companies from doing business here. |
| Date | 18:03:23, August 22, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | You shoul all know that currency ratings are not an indicator of how good the economy is. |
| Date | 13:30:13, August 23, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | Curreny ratings are a very strong indicator as to how well and how stable an economy is perfomring. |
| Date | 17:59:26, August 23, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the Software Patent Act 2097 |
| Message | This is not true at all, the *changing* of this ratings is an indicator, but the actual numerical value is meaningless. A nation could decide to conventionally multiply by 10 the value of its currency but this would not affect the economy at all. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 337 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 102 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 1 |
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