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Bill: Military intervention : Squibble
Details
Submitted by[?]: One Nation Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2466
Description[?]:
| A debate on the possible involvement of Pontesian troops in the defence of the people of Squibble. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:23:45, October 02, 2007 CET | From |  One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | Ladies and Gentlemen, The Jews of Beitenyu have proved all of their critics horrifyingly right, that their aim is for territorial expansion. It is because the Jews realise the strength of the Pontesian military and the resolve of our people to stand against imperialism that they dare not set a single foot inside the 5 regions of Pontesi, that the Jews have advanced their weapons of war against a helpless people in Squibble. There is nothing to stop the Jewish tanks other than the bodies of natives and the skulls of children. We must intervene in this most horrifying example of racial cleansing and I implore the Chancellor of Foreign Affairs not to take the Commonwealth on a path of so called 'friendship' with the Jews when incidents like this occur. We should not have the blood of th eSquibble natives on our hands too! |
| Date | 14:35:50, October 02, 2007 CET | From |  Ma'avak | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | OOC: Seriously? |
| Date | 15:19:55, October 02, 2007 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | "The Pontesian quarrel with the Beiteynuese problem is that they inhabit our soil and have persecuted the ethnic Pntks to the point of fleeing. If they expand West, we should bargain with them. We should opt to aid them acquire an equivalent area in Squibble in return for our territories back. We can always befriend Squibble natives elsewhere and possibly sell Pontesian arms to them also. Pontesi's interests surely would be better served through indirect intervention." --Hizabars Trdt, Atabeg Accipitrum |
| Date | 10:39:55, October 03, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | While foreign relations between Sekowo and Pontesi have always been that of mutual acquaintances (I can't find an instances where we were allies or enemies), we would ask that you help us prevent Beiteynu imperialism. We have seen the numerous human rights abuses, the most being making homosexuality illegal, that they have made in the name of 'morality' and 'religion', and thusly we fear they will do similar things to the native peoples of Squibble. |
| Date | 19:16:59, October 03, 2007 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | I thank our guest for their intervention in this debate and he makes a good point. I ask that the members of this House support Sekowo. |
| Date | 13:41:17, October 04, 2007 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | I am totally aganist the action by the Jewish against a helpless people in Squibble and agree with the ONCP that intervention must take place. Pontesian Military should be mobilize and Beiteynu shall be blockade by our navy. We also propose an official condemnation aganist Beiteynu Government for their action and a call for their immideate withdrawl from Squibble. -- David Webb, ETPRP Spokesperson |
| Date | 14:36:14, October 04, 2007 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | I call for a Parliamentary vote on military intervention to ensure the safety of the people of Squibble. |
| Date | 16:00:32, October 04, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | We thank the people and parties of Pontesi for anyand all actions taken to prevent Beiteynese imperialism. |
| Date | 17:22:32, October 04, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | "We ask Pontesi what good a military blockade will do when we have made this liberation mission by travelling west and away from your nation. Once again your logic appears to be as slanted as your eyes. Furthermore to get to Squibble, unless you wish to illegally cross the Migrant's Pass you will have to travel accross Accord controlled land, air and water and we shall be asking our allies there to ensure this is not permitted." -- Naczelnik Nasi Delshad Kandelcukier |
| Date | 18:25:03, October 04, 2007 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | It is possible to avoid the territorial waters of those nations, if fired upon Pontesi will use its extensive military resources to retaliate. Anyone who votes against this bill is endorsing jewish imperialism and threats. |
| Date | 18:31:08, October 04, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | OOC: It seems random at first, but I have a reason asking this. Are there large areas of arctic ice? Because, if there are'nt Pontesi ships could indeed reach the region without having to go near accord waters. |
| Date | 19:15:50, October 04, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | OOC: I don't really see how Pontesi could get to Squibble without going through aforementioned waters. To go west they'd have to pass through the Migrant's Pass which we are in the process of shutting off or I guess they could go all the way around the north of Artania but that would be dumb. And going east if you went down the bottom of Seleya Kanjor would be there and round the north and down again Rildanor and Indrala, but once again that would be a long route to take. As far as I know there isn't any ice but I don't really see how that factors into it. |
| Date | 20:31:09, October 04, 2007 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | OOC: If there's no ice, they could just go north and go down either side of Dovani to get there. |
| Date | 22:34:50, October 04, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Party of Pontesi | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | The Liberal Party believes that what the Jews are doing is wrong but we also believe violence shall not solve the problem all the time so we must sadly vote no to this. |
| Date | 03:07:06, October 05, 2007 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | We wish to remind the government of Beiteynu that this so-called "liberation mission" is firstly a "Homeland Expansion Operation" with the main purpose of gaining the natural resources of Squibble. Pontesian Government doesn't believe in the liberation motivation and believe that this is just another Jewish Imperialism act. The Migrant Pass will remain open, it is an international sea and we will do whatever we want in the area. Beiteynese Navy in the area will be met with force if they attempt to attack Pontesian Fleet. According to the Accord New guidelines for conflict resolution: (1) all members should not purposely provoke other states into a conflict and expect the Accord to get involved; (2) it should be reiterated that the Accord is a defensive alliance only; (3) member states should try hard to resolve disputes between themselves and the international community through diplomatic means to the exclusion of the use of force We believe that Beiteynu government have violate all of the guideline and request the Accord to stay neutral in this matter. -- Matthew Roberts, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 11:00:01, October 05, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | "The Migrant's Pass is not international waters, it is split under control of Beiteynu and Darnussia, as you are a ratifying nation of the Law of the Sea treaty we would expect you to recognise this or else be in violation of your own diplomatic laws. Any Pontesian ship attempting to pass through Beiteynuese waters shall be treated as a declaration of war." -- Naczelnik Nasi Delshad Kandelcukier |
| Date | 13:13:12, October 05, 2007 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | OOC: I'm not sure if I understand this correctly, but shouldn't there be only 500 km jurisdiction from the shore and looking in the map I think there is way longer than 1,500 km between Darnussia Island and Beiteynu? So what that is remain in the center should be an International Sea? |
| Date | 13:52:59, October 05, 2007 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | The pass is indeed over 1000km wide which means the sea between the two areas of jurisdiction is international waters. The Commonwealth navy will use these international waters and if fired upon, will pursue in a merciless retaliatory manner. |
| Date | 15:14:06, October 05, 2007 CET | From | Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the Military intervention : Squibble |
| Message | The accord have also persecuted the Jelbekai on majatra with imposed francophonic culture. The bastards feel that military intervention is too hasty. We abstain in order to convey our disapproval of rushed force yet show no proxy support of our western neighbours. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 179 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 180 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 266 |
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