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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2465

Details

Submitted by[?]: One Nation Conservative Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2465

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:23:30, October 03, 2007 CET
From One Nation Conservative Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2465
MessageThe Commonwealth needs a new Cabinet.

Date01:24:47, October 04, 2007 CET
From Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry'
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2465
MessageWe proposed one and the ETPRP abstained without comment, assuming they were still the kingmakers. Having proposed one of their own giving themselves Chancellor-Vizier, which we commented on. With all due respect to Poésy and her achievements, we must point out to the ETPRP that she is not presently at the helm. We are prepared to turn a forgiving eye to our allies on this occasion, but as much as we didn't make demands when we weren't the seat leaders of the long-standing coalition, we were astonished this wasn't reciprocated.

We would rather have swapped Finance or Justice for Foreign Affairs with negotiation but are prepared to accept for the sake of civility.

OOC: Homeland Security? Guess the ETPRP would want their creation and we agree with the bestowing of the responsibility upon them.

Date01:49:37, October 04, 2007 CET
From Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry'
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2465
MessagePS: OOC: We've just seen the other comment and felt comment was necessary.

"Power you deserve, ETPRP? May the Bastards remind you that the CBP granted you more positions than the coalitions' seat ratio mandated, REDUCED our own number of pickings and with the executive office of Atabeg we don't technically need a cabinet position, already having the power? The ETPRP need other parties with seats to get any power in any cabinet deal at all. We could very easily elect to give you no positions at all, possibly even withdraw any support for the old coalition. We have this power at our effectual fingertips.

Don't get the Bastards wrong, we have long stood as allies and we respect you as a party. However, as for power your party deserves - there comes a point where what borders on bare-faced opportunistic cheek in requesting things from parties who need not give you anything is rude. Respect the positions of all parties involved. Especially those who offer you things they needn't.

If the ETPRP repeat this action, next time, we'll be more inclined to feel that the power you deserve comes merely from sockets in the wall.

Again, we agree with the ONCP's compromise and thank them for their neutral take on this matter. The possible indirect denial of power to the ONCP would pain the Bastards more through teaching the ETPRP a strong lesson in respect.

The CBP still opt to forgive the possibly accidental or unaware insolence shown by the ETPRP's uncharacteristically naïve actions. Should their demands be the start of a more sinister split due to dissatisfaction with the alliance of old, the interests of the ONCP are ever welcome at my door.

We pray the ETPRP take our warning as seriously as the seats at what should be our collective table."

--Hizabars Tärdt, Atabeg Accipitrum

Date01:50:55, October 04, 2007 CET
From Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry'
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2465
Message*pain the Bastards more than the gains through teaching the ETPRP a strong lesson in respect.

Date03:02:27, October 04, 2007 CET
From Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2465
MessageIt's not about the head of government postion that we see it is unfair and it is not about the number inside the cabinet, but it is about the position. While CBP and ONCP gain most of the important seats in the cabinet like Defence, Foreign Affair, and Justice, but we're left with only finance which is naturally not our strong point. The CBP question aganist our action is fully understandble, but we urge them to look at their cabinet proposal carefully and see it from our point of view.

We praise the ONCP wise decision in the new cabinet proposal and looking forward to the new era of the commonwealth under our coaltion.

-- David Webb, Spokesperson of the ETPRP

OOC: Homeland Security? ONCP can have them so we can have equal seat. Just let me know your Chancellor name and your threat status so I can change them.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 316

no
   

Total Seats: 242

abstain
  

Total Seats: 67


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