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Bill: Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466
Details
Submitted by[?]: Order of Valtiel
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2466
Description[?]:
| The Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 (MCPF2466) shall end the 50+ year reign of the "Dead Government" of the DFCP which contains parties that no longer exist (leaving important Cabinet Offices in Chaos). This Proposed Cabinet represents the current proportional influence of each party on the list. Let there be a sane government in the Imperium, not a Dead One. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Order of Valtiel
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Order of Valtiel
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Fatty Boomsticks Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Drania Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Order of Valtiel
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Order of Valtiel
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Fatty Boomsticks Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Conservative Dranian Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Fascist Zealotry League
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Drania Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Fatty Boomsticks Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Conservative Dranian Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Fatty Boomsticks Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:35:22, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Fascist Zealotry League | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | We are disappointed that our steadfast support of the NSP through the years is now only worth one miserable seat on this cabinet! Irrespective of the result of the election it is now clear how fickle Miss Lore truly is! |
| Date | 01:40:12, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Fatty Boomsticks Party | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | Although I do like the amount of power suggested by the NSP I must vote against this as I do not agree with their policy on religion. As I said before, if religion is allowed in their agenda then I will gladly join in a coalition with them. |
| Date | 02:11:04, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | Is there no pleasing you people? |
| Date | 02:37:44, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Fatty Boomsticks Party | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | I will be pleased if you change your stance on religion. |
| Date | 02:43:24, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | Religion is evil and must be destroyed. |
| Date | 03:21:06, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Dranian Free Anarchist Faction | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | Fatt Boomsticks, The Neo-Seldonists are also believers in aggressive military expansionism, as well as MIND CONTROL. Let me make this very clear: they advocate the use of chemical and coercive methods to remove all independence of the people. Joining a coalition with them is an offense to humanity. |
| Date | 03:45:00, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | The NSP simply wishes to build a global society on the principle of Happiness, what is wrong with that? |
| Date | 03:50:01, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Dranian Free Anarchist Faction | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | 1. Your principles will not create happiness. Happiness cannot be forced. If it is, it is not happiness. Happiness is an upwelling from within, not an imposition from the outer world. Your principles do not create happiness, they create control. That said, your principles do not create sadness either. They create, well, control. Nothing else. Only the eternal dull equilibrium of determinism. 2. You use that as a populist slogan, but we know it isn't true. The leaders of your party would not be part of the system, but would rather be in control of the system from the outside. It's a ploy to fulfill your greedy motives, not an honest attempt to help the world. And, as I said in item 1, even if it WERE an honest attempt, it isn't properlyh grounded. |
| Date | 04:14:58, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | We will address your second point first: The leaders will be very much part of the system, in order for it to perpetuate itself the Seldonist Society will design a system of control that will reinforce the Ethics of Happiness upon all people (from the Highest Caste to the Lowest) even before birth. Now to your first "point" where you claim that Seldonism wont create Happiness. Of course Seldonism will create Happiness, the Society will be driven by the need to keep people's serotonin levels at an optimal level (serotonin is the chemical in the mind that creates Happiness) by many means that will keep people entertained, sexually relived, and of course Happy. But most of Seldonist Theory will have to occur deep in the future when Technology catches up with our ideas. Right now the only functioning societies are democratic nation-states and Imperiums. But that does not mean that the NSP will sit on the sidelines. We will work hard to bring human technology and evolution up to par with Seldonism so that we can finally be free of Ilusions and find perfect Happiness forever. |
| Date | 04:16:14, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | OOC: Seldonism is basically "Brave New World" on steroids. I wrote a comprehensive article on the Particracy wiki, there is a link on my party page. |
| Date | 04:16:53, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Fatty Boomsticks Party | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | I'm siding with DFCP |
| Date | 04:26:25, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Order of Valtiel | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | So, just like the DFCP (who's members have been assaulting NSP supporters for years) you intend to ignore the majority of Dranians who are tired of illusions and want to be happy? See you at the next elections when we are given everything else. |
| Date | 13:36:46, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Drania Party | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | Seldonism is a secret police officer following you everywhere you go, hitting you over the head with a rubber truncheon, shouting 'Be HAPPY! Be HAPPY!' It would be much easier on you to simply give up and be happy, citizen. |
| Date | 22:34:16, October 06, 2007 CET | From | Dranian Free Anarchist Faction | To | Debating the Moderation Cabinet Proposal of February 2466 |
| Message | OOC- Didn't you steal Seldonism from a book series, lol? Come on man, be original! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 170 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 404 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 91 |
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