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Bill: Rational Health Care Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2468

Description[?]:

Since there is a vast capitalist majority we'll try to push things towards a sensible center.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:03:51, October 08, 2007 CET
From Imperial Cildanian Egoists
ToDebating the Rational Health Care Bill
MessageWhat vast capitalist majority? The "party" of Matty is only capitalist when not in power.

Date14:08:53, October 09, 2007 CET
From Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front
ToDebating the Rational Health Care Bill
MessageWe don't define being capitalist as whether or not the government privatizes the water supply or whether the government allows a "free trade" in body parts. Or whether there is a vaccination program for preventable diseases that can ravage the general population. We define it as whether vast segments of industry should be taken over and run by the government or through collective organizations. If we could get Matty to vote with us to creatre a socialist economy we'd be in heaven. We asked. He won't. He's more flexiblle than Justice and yourself but still a far cry from what we ultimately desire.

And that is why you have the parties of the center like Matty and the Progressives are acting a bit whacky. Because when they vote for centrist proposals their profile ends up looking almost the same as mine. They believe in the free market, I don't. And the profiles don't reflect that. If you vote the way a free market advocate in say the real world would vote rather than a crazed libertarian you end up with a profile little different from the communist. The lack of nuances is how you ended up with a "regulator" profile and I ended up with a "religious" profile.

What you're really criticizing them for is for moving their profile by voting FOR some stuff that is more extreme than they believe in rather than proposing bills they have no intention of voting in order to switch their profile. I field no difference from his omnibus bills he voted yes on and the "stance" bills other parties voted no on. All that happens because Market seems to be THE decider on how well parties do.

We're an ideological party so we're fine with never coming in first or second. As long as parties are willing to work with us we're happy.

Date16:45:04, October 09, 2007 CET
From Peoples Revolutionary Front
ToDebating the Rational Health Care Bill
MessageThe Word RATIONAL really fits into this bill, good proposal.

Date20:12:26, October 09, 2007 CET
From Imperial Cildanian Egoists
ToDebating the Rational Health Care Bill
MessageOOC: Would have no problem with their voting behavior, if the system fuctioned as it is supposed to. As it is, with coherency apparently being a static value that simply sits at perfect no matter what you do, rather than a dynamic one based on voting behaviors, their practice of vote switching can be fairly characterized as taking advantage of a bug in the system, which in most online games would be considered cheating.

As to this party, it never proposes a bill unless it intends to vote yes on it.

Date03:50:53, October 10, 2007 CET
From Space, Technology, Eugenics And Monarchy
ToDebating the Rational Health Care Bill
MessageFull of the irrelevant. These particular irrelevancies would require funding. This funding could be better spent on the cause of progress.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 20

no
    

Total Seats: 22

abstain
  

Total Seats: 33


Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation.

Random quote: "Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end." - John Dalberg-Acton

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