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Bill: National Safety Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revolutionary Constit'nal United Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2470
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 05:29:39, October 10, 2007 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the National Safety Bill |
Message | We do not support. People who are tortured tell their captors whatever they want to hear to stop their pain. Torture is immoral, but it also provides faulty intelligence. |
Date | 12:49:17, October 10, 2007 CET | From | Jelbék Lofrjogad Pntak | To | Debating the National Safety Bill |
Message | we strongly support, torture may be immoral and provide faulty intelligence but its a hell of a lot of fun! |
Date | 19:21:39, October 10, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Jelbanian Party-D.L.J.-D.L.F | To | Debating the National Safety Bill |
Message | we strongly oppose |
Date | 21:41:02, October 10, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Constit'nal United Front | To | Debating the National Safety Bill |
Message | We do not believe that torture is ineffective. It may be ineffective on those who don't know anything in the first place, but those that do would reveal everything there is to reveal. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 40 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 37 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 23 |
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