We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Notice: Undefined index: EXECUTIVE_LEADER in /var/www/vhosts/particracy.net/subdomains/classic/httpdocs/viewbill.php on line 234

Bill: Introduction of the National Sport

Details

Submitted by^[?]: removed

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2039

Description^[?]:

A bill establishing the game of association football (or soccer) as the National Sport

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change The official national sport.

Old value:: none

Current: missing

Proposed: Association Football (Soccer)

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	not recorded
From
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	This is fairly straightforward. I ask for your support in this measure.

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	The SDP does not support making such an antagonistic game a symbol of our country. We would instead suggest Darts, a game which allows competitors to acheive independently from the performance of others. Additionally, making darts a national sport will encourage numeracy in our children.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	We should encourage teamwork, not individual pride at the expense of the whole

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	This is certainly the case. But teamwork is frequently lost in games such as football, where some players' positions are seen as more important or glorious than others. Do not forger that darts can be played as a team game.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	You did not present it as a team game, you argued that it was individual.

Date	not recorded
From
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Not to mention the individual nature of even team darts, unless the SDP can show otherwise

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	A sport in which some members of every team are valued more than others based on their position, not ability - despite the fact that each player is very much a necessary part of the team. Team darts requires good effort from all team players. The SDP of course welcomes any other suggestions for a national sport.

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Clarification: "Team darts requires good effort from all team players" and no individual role is less valid: players are free to do as well as they can and their efforts will be recognised in appropriate measure. Perhaps relay running would be an appropriate analogy - or even replacement (though it lacks the numerical aspect)

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Or we can just pick a sport because the people like to play it, as I'm sure they could give a rat about the analogies?

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Well, yes, but since it's difficult to conduct a poll in the current circumstances, we may as well discuss the significance of our choice.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Why does it have to be soccer? We don't want it to be soccer. We want it to be Hockey. Why can't hockey be our national sport?

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I would Support hockey if it were determined that our climate were colder.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	So? What does weather have to do with a national sport? It shouldn't!

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I suppose 'winter' sports would be inapproporiate for a temperate or warmer climate, but hockey can be played in any weather.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	It would be a bit improper to have hockey as the national sport in a tropical climate, i think.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	It'll make it very interesting and you notice I said the word Hockey. I never specified what type of hockey.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Hockey is Hockey. "Field Hockey" is not Hockey, it is Field Hockey :P

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Its still hockey. And you forgot Deck Hockey, Roller Hockey, and Floor Hockey. All of which is called hockey.

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	The only type of hocket climate restricts you to is ice hockey.

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Excuse me, that post was quite bad. The only type of hockey climate restricts you from playing is ice hockey

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	In a tundra climate you can not play roller hockey. Yet, it is perfect for ice hockey.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	You could play rollar hockey in a tundra. You can play it outdoors or indoors. Just like Ice Hockey. It can be played outdoors and indoors.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Have fun playing roller hockey in the tundra...

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Indoors I will. Outdoors, I wouldn't bother.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	"You could play rollar hockey in a tundra. You can play it outdoors or indoors" So much for that statement, then.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	You can play it indoors or outdoors. It depends on the climate you're in.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	But you specifically said in the tundra, then went on to say you wouldnt play it outdoors in the tundra, is that not a contradiction?

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	no it isn't.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	How then is it not a contradiction to say you can play it indoors or outdoors, but that you wouldnt play it outdoors?

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	It depends on the climate your in. If you live in a cold climate with lots of ice, I wouldn't want to play it outdoors. I've played roller hockey indoors and outdoors and I'm in a temperate climate

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Thats the whole point...

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	The point is, you can play hockey in any climate with the proper stadium built for it based on the climate your playing in.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Or inotherwords, you can play hockey in any climate by building a million dollar structure that regulates the climate... Where in Football/Soccer, you can actually play anytime, anywhere, and never require anything but land. No Million Dollar Stadiums, No Climate Control, Just some land, and a ball.

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I don't even care for soccer. American Football is the way to go. Hockey is better though because of all the vicious hits and more than likely a fight breaks out.

Date	not recorded
From
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	It seems like there will be no compromise on this one. I am moving this for a vote now, and we'll see how the votes tally up.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	American Football is not a Sport, it is a game.

Date	not recorded
From
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	The Moderates disagree with the above statement by the Antiparticulates, but will disregard such

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I swear, I worked it out. It made sense it's a very complicated formula. It would also state that Darts and Cricket were games, not Sports. Althought there is a catch. American Football is a GameSport - it's a mix, one of the rare ones with an asterik*

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Darts is a game. Cricket is a sport. The NFL is a sport, Soccer is a sport, Curling is a sport, Bowling is a sport. Do you want me go on?

Date	not recorded
From	Social Dynamist Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Perhaps we should look for a different option, maybe even one hitherto not mentioned.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I am a bowler and my father is a professional bowler. Regardless of this fact, it is a game. Why? Because in a game, each player takes turns to accrue points. In a sport, both sides can earn points at all times. There is no "turn taking". this is why the NFL is an asterik, soccer, rugby, hockey, these are sports. Baseball, Darts, Cricket, Curling, these are games.

Date	not recorded
From
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	Well, I guess we're getting nowhere on this one...

Date	not recorded
From	Patriot Party
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I disagree 100% antiparticles. Bowling is a sport. I bowl. My brother bowls and his old roomate bowls and they bowl in the same bowling club. They all agree that bowling is a sport. Football is also a sport because you try to score points, by your definition, all the time. Same with baseball. Yes you take turns but it is still a sport. As for curling, don't tell the Canadians that its a game. They'd crucify you.

Date	not recorded
From	3wide.com Antiparticulates
To	Debating the Introduction of the National Sport
Message	I bowl too, But it's a game, not a sport, because your opponent has no influence on your final result, and can only gain points for themselves at specific parts of the GAME. Just like Baseball, Just like Darts.

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote

Seats

yes

Freedom Party (0)

Total Seats: 0

Total Seats: 71

abstain

Total Seats: 0

Random fact: You can inactivate yourself on your User Page. You will then lose all your seats but your party account won't be deleted, and your party's Visibility ratings will not diminish. Reactivation can be requested in the "Reactivation Requests" thread in the Game Moderation section of the Particracy Forum.

Random quote: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, from those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

This page was generated with PHP
Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
Queries performed: 97