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Bill: Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472
Details
Submitted by[?]: Centre Démocratique
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2472
Description[?]:
| To provide more adequate representation for our people. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 100
Current: 77
Proposed: 501
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:45:51, October 18, 2007 CET | From |  Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | The legislature in Jelbania has switched its number of seats several times, but 501 has been the number for many more years than the others. We believe in better representation for our people through more legislators and we want to do so in a way that positively reflects the traditions of our great land. A population of 160,651,741 people need more than 100 representatives. We call on every party to support this measure. This will not increase costs as the budget will remain the same. This will force the government to reign in excessive spending and get rid of wasteful bureaucracy. |
| Date | 10:55:27, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Drtárék Jelbék Prta | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | As we use a proportional system of representation the arguement that we need more representatives to better represent the population is false. Bearing in mind the strength of devolved government in this nation, then these devolved governments are institutions where citizens should go to discuss issues with a representative. Federal government is primarily concerned with foreign issues, budget issues, and questions of devolution, it has no real role with which to aid the average citizen. As it for it not increasing costs, that is nonsense. Of course it will increase costs, by at least five fold, unless representatives take a massive pay cut, and no new staff are employed in the national legislature. Furthermore 501 has often been in use in this nation, but generally only when French parties have been in the ascendent. When Non-French parties have influence, generally the number of seats in the national legislature have been reduced, recognising the role of the devolved institutions, and reducing the number of pointless politicians. |
| Date | 15:34:14, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | We do not support any increase in the budget for this proposal. We must work with what we have already to make this transition work. |
| Date | 18:43:45, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Lib-Gov Party-part of W.A-S.U | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | Holding the same Governament's budget ,we don't see any reason to oppose |
| Date | 20:02:37, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Drtárék Jelbék Prta | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | Then UCC how will it work? Are you really saying that Members of the legislature are to have their wages cut fivefold? What about the support staff for each member? Are they to receive massive pay cuts, or are members going to have less staff? Furthermore if we have five times as many members, but do not make five times as much resources available to them, how are they going to deal any better with the public? Basically we are asking for five times as much, with the same funding as before, it can't possibly work. |
| Date | 22:32:19, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | We will be proposing a separate bill that ensure that Assemblee members work on a part-time basis for only a small stipend. There will not be a need for large staff. This will encourage true citizen-legislators, rather than career politicians. |
| Date | 05:15:12, October 19, 2007 CET | From | Centre Démocratique | To | Debating the Strengthening Our Representative Government Act 2472 |
| Message | For those concerned with the budget and size of the Assemblee please see this bill which UCC just introduced: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=147916 In light of this, we hope JKK, CUF, and JLF consider support of this. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 37 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 17 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 46 |
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