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Bill: NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jakanian Imperial Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2473
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet for the new WWF administration. Unlike the NSPJ or the WWF with their liberal and conservative cabinets, as a party with no seats, we propose a fair equality in the cabinet based percentage of seats each party has in the General Assembly. As you can see, we did not include ourselves in it. We wish feedback and this a cabinet proposal based on neutrality. Revisions to each parties 'wish list' will be strongly pursued to assure complete happiness. As an active member of the General Assembly, we are horrified by the cutthroat tactics pursued by both conservative and liberal members. Although, we are a party conservative by ideology, cabinets are a way to balance the playing field of politics. We are displeased especially by the socialistic and liberal member by loading up the cabinet through a spoils system, but we can't say anything better with our conservative members. -Rob Suthers, NJRP Assemblyman Some previous examples of the JRP making a balanced cabinet: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=69927 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=68292 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=65082 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=63436 (The JCP was an old tyrant party that everyone hated so they got the boot, it was the JRP third proposal for its second cabinet proposal, had a dictatorship eariler) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=60816 As follows: United Conservative Movement: 4 positions; PM, Internal Affairs, Justice, and Trade and Industry National Socialist Party of Jakinia: 3 positions; Food and Agriculture, Infrastructure and Transport, and Education and Culture Secularist Libertarian Party: 2 positions; Foreign Affairs and Health and Social Services World Wrestling Federation: 2 positions; Finance and Defense National Democratic Society: 1 position; Science and Technology Social Religious Party: 1 position; Environment and Tourism |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the United Democrats of Jakania
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the National Democratic Society
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Birleşik Demokrat Parti
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Social Religious Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the United Democrats of Jakania
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Scientific Libertarian Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the United Democrats of Jakania
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the World Wrestling Federation
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the World Wrestling Federation
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the United Democrats of Jakania
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Birleşik Demokrat Parti
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Scientific Libertarian Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Birleşik Demokrat Parti
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:25:15, October 18, 2007 CET | From | World Wrestling Federation | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | This would be a great justice to all! |
| Date | 08:45:54, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | We wish to see that we're all in this together and not serving our own selfish political interests. As it already seems the NSPJ cabinet proposal passed, we consider bias cabinets due to political ideology as stupid and have a see-saw effect on this country. We are pleased that the WWF members of the Assembly agreed with our standpoint. However, these positions are not confirmed positions, as parties, you may express a wish list. If there is a two or more parties wanting like a position like Foreign Minister, you're going to make a point and show off your candidate's strengths. Our basis of choosing cabinet positions is based by experience, with the PM automatically going to the largest majority party. We prefer that such important positions in the cabinet should not be rocked with sudden party change and the possibility of change is through the emerging party like the NSPJ staying strong in the next election. While the WWF has head of state, it still needs some powerful cabinet positions such as Finance and Defense, both are suitable to them. The SLP, has long experienced the position of Foreign Affairs and we recognize that a continuation of strong foreign policy via the SLP and Health and Social Services is another strong suit in favor of the SLP. We know that most position are not interactive, but we guess you could roleplay like we did with the Interstate Highways Act of 2247 using the minister of Infrastructure and Transport. |
| Date | 17:08:31, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Social Religious Party | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | Why should all parties be represented in the cabinet anyway? That's not how it works in real life. |
| Date | 18:29:35, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | Well, if your gonna start with the real life deal, we might as well abolish every party proposing a cabinet for it should by only set up always the largest party in corporation of the party with the head of state. Their is no need to be politically cutthroat like it is in real life. Besides, this is Jakinia, traditional methods of politics has never really been followed. |
| Date | 18:52:26, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | Why should all parties should be represented in the cabinet? That's because its been the way Jakinia has done most cabinet proposals in the past, only on a few occasions that some parties weren't involved in balanced cabinet positions. We could start naming the times a balanced proposals, the NJRP has listed balanced or at least nearly balanced cabinets off the first 10 pages of the bill list. So there you go SRP, members of Jakinia's General Assembly have set a general precedent on this issue. Read away: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=146544 (I guess that the SRP wasn't really active, so the UCM cut you out.) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=146286 (The one that passed for replacing the one below) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=145271 (The need for a working cabinet outstripped the need a balanced cabinet) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=144762 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=140154 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=139664 (Bad communication with the SLP with the others) http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=139401 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=138096 http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=134581 |
| Date | 21:00:22, October 18, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Imperial Party | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | In reference to the NSPJ, "Gov. vs opposition" if there is anyone who should be controlled how cabinets are formed should be the party with the head of state or the largest party, while the NSPJ is the second largest has no right to ax out moderately powerful parties like the WWF and SLP. Although we have our differences, respect on cabinet formation is necessary to effective government. |
| Date | 23:48:00, October 22, 2007 CET | From | Birleşik Demokrat Parti | To | Debating the NJRP Balanced Cabinet Proposal of April 2472 |
| Message | True, however, I am only looking at the best interests of my party, and of the people who voted for us. You can't fault us on that surely? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 154 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 78 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 18 |
| Random fact: Party candidates for head of state elections are not visible to the public. This means that you cannot see who will run and who will not, which adds another strategic element to the elections. |
| Random quote: "I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians." - Charles de Gaulle |