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Bill: Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Dynamist Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2039

Description[?]:

This bill would end the current government ban on trade unions, which infringes on some of the basic rights of our people.

The SDP would like to note that this does not condone unions causing public disruption, merely their right to be represented to their employers.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageWe feel that by doing this, while we say Membership is Voluntary, it will impress on workers in a way that they should not be impressed, and that these unions would be abused and non-member workers isolated

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageThe current laws are such that the gathering of those who feel they have been unfairly treated is a punishable offence. Surely this is not fair? Additionally, I would like to ask what the Antiparticulates mean by abuse, and how you believe it may occur.

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageThis too is unfair, but i also see, if the wording is changed as the Dynamist's propose, that the beliefs of the union would become too strong and force all workers to support the union, or fear losing their job, even if they are not in support of it's views.

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageIn short, there are no good options to choose at this time.

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FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageTrade Unions should still be illegal. If they are legalized then they should have a no strike clause.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
Message3wide: "all workers to support the union, or fear losing their job, even if they are not in support of it's views"
- This is currently the case for management: indeed more so, since unions can't sack you.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageRepublicans: While I accept this is necessary for key services such as policing, why should government intervene to arrest people for failing to turn up to work?

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FromInactive
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageWe urge the partys with the power to vote to vote for this bill. Workers should have rights too.

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FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageThis is the docks. Docks=Shipping. Shipping=money. Money=revenue. If they don't show up for work, other people have to step in and fill in. This causes the company to lose money and makes good more expensive.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageThis bill is moved to the voting stage in order that it may be passed before the prison reform bill of June.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Freedom of Association Bill (Trade Unions)
MessageWhile I suspect many of you have made up your minds, I would reiterate that, as well as criminalising workers for asking for representation, a basic democratic right, it also precludes any dialogue between the 'top' and 'bottom' of an organisation. Workers on a factory floor have no say and no influence on the company. Only the person at the pinnacle of the hierarchy has power, and this lack of communication, not identity of unions, is what frequently what frustrates and leads to strikes - organised or not. Nor is such a divide good for an organisation's efficiency, for those parties more interested in business than people. Unions ensure that management is more aware of what happens on ground level.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 56

no
  

Total Seats: 15

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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