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Bill: Proper Government Creation Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: removed

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2039

Description[?]:

A bill establishing the ability of the major parties to create a governing coalition, should one be necessary

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
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MessageWhat right then does the head of state have?

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From
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MessageWell, if the head of state has a majority, then this is not an issue. Now, by allowing the larger parties a chance to propose a coalition, we provide more options, and a better likelihood of expediently putting a coalition cabinet together, should one be necessary

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
MessageAnd... What constitutes a larger party?

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FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
MessageThat is a very good question.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
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MessageI would guess, if anything, the largest parties in order up to and including the party making up the (50%+1)th seat. e.g. given parties with shares 40%, 20%, 4 x 10% means either of the largest two parties can look for a coalition. Though anything's possible.

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From3wide.com Antiparticulates
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
MessageWell we shouldnt even try voting on something we dont know what i t means

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From
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MessageI'll look for a clarification, though I took it as meaning a party with a significant amount of the plurality

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From
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MessageI found the clarification: this would give the ability to propose a cabinet to the party with the most seats. I'm not as sold on the idea, but feel it makes more sense than the Head of State taking it by default

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FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
MessageIs that why you voted no for my cabinet? That is redicoulous. The Head of State is the President of a country. I would hve to vote no on this.

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FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
Messagehmm, I think this boils down to who we hink controls the government, the president or the largest group in the legislature. I know of countries that each take this route.

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From
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MessageRepublicans: The Moderates have other reasons for opposing your cabinet proposals, though we feel that the proposals indicate why the President's party is not necessarily the optimal choice for being the sole proposer of the cabinet slate

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FromPatriot Party
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MessageNeither is the majority Party. Just because you are majority doesn't mean you can push us people around. The president has to form the cabinet and not the legislature. Remember that.

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FromPatriot Party
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MessageCongratulations, you just killed all minority parties. I hope your happy. Now they won't have a say in government.

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From
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MessageRepublicans: Regardless of who nominates the cabinet, the Parliament as a whole must approve it. These proceedings have shown that if there is a case where the President is from a minority party, then the formation of a cabinet can be very troublesome. By allowing the leading party to propose the cabinet, you are more likely to see a coalition come out of it.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Proper Government Creation Act
MessageIrrespective of this bill, Minority parties have the same degree of influence. Non-sitting parties currently have no official say in the makeup of the government. Larger parties who feel in some way aligned to smaller parties may well include them in government, so might the president. The problem is that a presidential choice means that if the president is not in sync with the majority of the legislature - which is more representative of the whole - then no government at all is formed, minor parties or not.

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FromSocial Dynamist Party
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MessageWhile the SDP works for representation for minorities as well as majorities, practicality determines that it is better for governments to be formed by a majority consensus rather than vetoable by the decision of a minority.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 56

no
  

Total Seats: 15

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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