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Bill: Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475

Details

Submitted by[?]: Telamonese Socialist Alliance

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2476

Description[?]:

Allows the government to operate three key public sectors: mail, power generation, and trains.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:27:25, October 23, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Workers Union
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageThe SDPT agrees in principle with Articles 3 and 4 (public post offices and TOC's), but believes socialism in Telamon would be better achieved by turning power over most industry to DWC's. We can not agree with Article 1 because we fear it would ban private wind turbines and solar panels. However, we expect there will be some debate among any socialist coalition, and we would not be offended if the TSA put this to a vote. Just note that the SDPT will not be in favor of it if it carries the first two Articles.

Date23:12:56, October 23, 2007 CET
FromTelamonese Socialist Alliance
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageThe SDPT's input is appreciated, I'll add a DWC clause. But the TSA would like to point out that there are laws on the books that advocate the development of clean, green technologies and stringent pollution controls. Those wind turbines wouldn't be banned, they would just change hands. Also, the TSA believes that government direction from above would be better able to coordinate the activities of DWCs and industry, yielding better results than complete decentralization.

Date01:36:17, October 24, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Workers Union
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageThe SDPT hopes that Article 5 can become law on its own in the future, but we don't think we can agree to government control of most industries unless there was a clear promise that DWC's would be allowed to fully manage their own business without centralized management after a certain number of years (essentially temporary nationalization to help the transition along).

Government control of private solar panels scattered throughout the country in people's yards is not efficient however, and we wouldn't be able to support that.

Date02:11:47, October 24, 2007 CET
FromTelamonese Socialist Alliance
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageI think I'll take out the bit about the industry and DWCs and put a smaller bill to a vote.

Date18:54:48, October 24, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Workers Union
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageOk, that would be good.

Date20:54:49, October 25, 2007 CET
FromTelamons Nationell Kongress
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageToo much centralization - infrastructure development will require private participation.

Date22:45:33, October 25, 2007 CET
FromTelamonese Socialist Alliance
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
Messageouch, bill was stomped

Date02:02:08, October 26, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Workers Union
ToDebating the Centralization of Essential Services Act of 2475
MessageSorry.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 188

no
    

Total Seats: 445

abstain
  

Total Seats: 43


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