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Bill: Free Visa Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberty Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2478

Description[?]:

"Zardugal is a vast land. The Liberty Party doesn't see why legal foreign nationals can't come here and reside permanently.

Of course, they'd all be subject to regulation if they wanted to become citizens, but if we grant all foreign nationals permanent visas upon request, millions of foreign nationals could pay taxes to their foreign government while spending all they're money here. As non citizens, they wouldn't have access to our public institutions, so they won't become drain on the system either.

The vacuum they'll create will mean a massive boost for the economy, as not only corporations are experiencing massive sales, but their difference cultures and the sheer number of them will mean many more businesses will start up, which means more jobs for Zardugalies and the foreign nationals.

Being foreign nations, and not citizens, if they broke our laws they'd be deported as soon as possible.

We'd have the best of both worlds."

~Ruben Memorial, Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:27:42, October 27, 2007 CET
FromNational Authoritarian Movement
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
MessageYou'll never get our support on that bill.

Date05:20:45, October 28, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"Yet again, a very convincing counter argument from our friends in NAM, as always your intelligent comments are appreciated."

~Ruben Memorial

Date11:44:29, October 28, 2007 CET
FromNational Authoritarian Movement
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"If a certain level of foreigners in our country is reached, all others have no need to integrate since there's already that much foreigners here to live within that community witout getting in tuch with the native Zardugals. That's why we support quotas for permanent residing foreigners."

Date06:23:35, October 29, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"It is not business of the State to regulate Zardugal's culture. We only support the free market and Zardugali Liberty. This act will allow for massive economic development whilst not flooding our nation with legal citizens who pay tax, therefore having access to the bloated welfare and public institutions the Regulation Bloc of your organization and the Communist Party have forced upon Zardugal.

Perhaps if we did not bloat the public sector so far it would be sensible to open the borders for new citizens, but the Zardugali economy would collapse if that happened, therefore the Liberty Party offers the best of both worlds: more people to work and buy our products, without the cost of dealing out welfare for them."

~Ruben Memorial

Date06:24:24, October 29, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"It is not business of the State to regulate Zardugal's culture. We only support the free market and Zardugali Liberty. This act will allow for massive economic development whilst not flooding our nation with legal citizens who pay tax, therefore having access to the bloated welfare and public institutions the Regulation Bloc of your organization and the Communist Party have forced upon Zardugal.

Perhaps if we did not bloat the public sector so far it would be sensible to open the borders for new citizens, but the Zardugali economy would collapse if that happened, therefore the Liberty Party offers the best of both worlds: more people to work and buy our products, without the cost of dealing out welfare for them."

~Ruben Memorial

Date19:39:02, October 29, 2007 CET
FromRevolutionary Army Left Movement
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"My only doubt is: There will be work for everybody? If not crime will raise, if yes taxes will raise. Its on the line, and since there are nothing sure, i would vote no for now, but that might change in future."

Date23:01:19, October 29, 2007 CET
FromIrish Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
MessageWe can't let foreign nationals come in and steal jobs from our own nationals because they are willing to work for less.

Date08:11:12, October 30, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"The Communist's raise a valid point, though as we have no provision for a unemployment benefit, even if we did they're not citizens so they wouldn't be offered one, I doubt foreign nationals will stick around very long. Besides, as foreign nationals, if they did commit the most insignificant of crimes they'd be deported right back home on the spot.

The Irish Party's point, however, is not valid at all, but riddled with flaws. If the jobs are low paying and there are people out there that will readily work for less then the average Zardugali would, guess what, the market's going to take that labor overseas anyway. This way we can at least ensure those factories will remain here, at home, with profits going to Zardugalies, with Zardugali owners and managers.

We're taking advantage of trend in the free market."

~Ruben Memorial

Date08:26:01, October 30, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
MessageOOC NOTE: Forget to talk about the Communist's suggestion that taxes will raise if the economy grows....

IC: I'm not sure why any party would raise taxes while the economy is booming. I know Communism is associated with and will cause economic recession, but I didn't know the Communist's actually intended for them to happen. And with all due respect, I doubt your Party's economists care whether the economy is booming or imploding, under Communism taxes will always be high.

Date13:42:24, October 30, 2007 CET
FromRevolutionary Army Left Movement
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
MessageWe didnt mean a tax percent raise, but a tax income raise, since there are more workers who pay taxes.

Date06:21:56, November 01, 2007 CET
FromLiberty Party
ToDebating the Free Visa Act
Message"They would pay far less tax then the average Zardugali citizen, just enough to pay for the roads and other limited government services provided in Zardugal that you don't have to be a citizen to have access too. It's unreasonable to charge foreign nationals tax for services not offered to them, like universal health care.

Why would income tax revenue be bad anyway, if we're running a surplus we can cut taxes."

~Ruben Memorial

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