Main | About | Tutorial | FAQ | Links | Wiki | Forum | World News | World Map | World Ranking | Nations | Electoral Calendar | Party Organizations | Treaties |
Login | Register |
Game Time: December 5473
Next month in: 01:49:22
Server time: 14:10:37, April 23, 2024 CET
Currently online (2): New Thought | rezins | Record: 63 on 23:13:00, July 26, 2019 CET

We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Bill: Insolence

Details

Submitted by[?]: Falanges Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2480

Description[?]:

The insolence of the country so called "Sixth Jewish Homeland of Beiteynu", and especially the parties named "Christian Zionist Party", and the other named "Maavak" has reached its maximum. Take a look on what they are proposing in their legislature.
http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=150922
So i propose to reject and to condemn the attitude of this so called country and the two parties. I also propose that our Imperial Diet shows support for the CDNC and for our Holy Empire and our Holy Emperor in the unilateral agression they are facing from the two stated parties and more generally from Beiteynu.
If you have any other proposal please inform us.

Secretary General of the CDNC

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:13:15, November 01, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Insolence
Message"You reference a bill that will not pass and that was proposed legitimately in response to your violation of both the National Sovereignty in the Legislature and the Do Not Spam treaties and your refusal to accept internationall agreed upon notions of sovereignty. As such we urge all other Luthori parties to reject this ridiculous bill that does not even propose any sort of real policy and instead comdemn the Christian Democratic Nationalist Corps for their violation of international law."

-- Avidan Matusevitch, General Secretary of Ma'avak/Commander in Chief of Lohamei Herut Kahina

Date17:48:04, November 01, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Insolence
Messageisint this a violation of the Do not Spam and National Sovereignty in the Legislature: This is the insolence i am talking about. Look at all the bils in their legislature, you wont find any Spam from our part. I strongly encourage all the parties in our Holy Empire to condemn this unresponsible act

Date18:45:02, November 01, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Insolence
Message"In accordance with the National Sovereignty in the Legislature Treaty parties have the right to comment on bills that directly refer to themselves or their nation until ask to refrain from doing so by the nation from which the bill originates. We cannot speak for the Do Not Spam Treaty but assume it would follow similar protocools, if however it does not and we are thus in violation of it we apologise. However your comments such as in the following bill - http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=150259 - directly violate these principles by commenting in a bill that has no relation to you or your nation, the same can be said of your spamming of our national forum. Therefore we believe that you are in violation of these treaties and thus international law.

Furthermore the same can be said for your refusal to recognise the sovereignty of our nation, something may we note you have yet to give a reason for. Do you oppose the existence of Beiteynu because you support Pontesian claims to Tadraki and Endild? Is it because you think all states should be Christian? Is it because you simply oppose Jewish political representation? Whilst we would firmly disagree with any of these reasons it would nice if you could give one first in order for us to debate the issue at hand.

In any case you have on countless occasions refused to recognise the sovereignty of Beiteynu and the right to self determination of the Beiteynuese people despite the international community agreeing otherwise. Additionally we note that Luthori is still a ratifying nation of the Non-recognition of the Islamic Caliphate of Beiteynu treaty, an international agreement that was created to ensure that Beiteynu was returned to majority rule, eg. Christian and Jewish rule. We find it therefore strange that you would directly go against such a treaty that your own nation agrees to.

In in the interests of diplomacy we shall now refrain from commenting on this bill until the other parties in Luthori have spoken or further accusations of questions have been put against us. Yet we once again advise all such parties in Luthori to not fall prey to CDNC propoganda and lies but instead respect international law and assist in the furtherment of Terra wide relations."

-- Avidan Matusevitch

Date20:56:42, November 01, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageHey!!!!!!
All National and Patriotic parties of our Holy Empire!!! We have to wake up!!!
The Maavak party and behind them the so called Beiteynu country are declaring a war to our Holy Empire by directly interfering in our politics and even in our day to day affairs. They are trying to use the "Divide and Rule" strategy: they want to isolate our party by creating nonsense bills, to divide us, in order to be able to rule us.
We in the party call all the patriots to sing the national anthem in these hard times, and ask all Christians to pray, and to be prepared for all actions.

God, Jesus Christ
Holy Luthori Empire
At your service!!!!!

Date23:44:36, November 01, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageRule Luthori!
Luthori rules the waves,
The Luthori never never never shall be slaves...

Date00:08:52, November 02, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageSo we are moving this resoluion to a vote. Just remember one thing, you cannot be unaligned or neutral: or you reject the impertinent interference from Beiteynu on our party and our Holy Empire and Emperor, or you accept that a foreign country and even party governs us and eslaves us, which should NEVER NEVER NEVER happen. I am counting on your sense of patriotism, nationalism and solidarism.
The victory is for our Holy Emperor and Empire!!!!

General Secretariat of the CDNC

Date05:00:01, November 02, 2007 CET
FromNationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageThe NSAP gives it's full support to the CDNC and points out that this is to be expected from the Zionists and inferior Jews.

Friedrich Herr
Chairman of the Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei

Date05:08:27, November 02, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Insolence
Message"Once again the CDNC lists a whole host of innacuracies, we will address them now;

* "The Maavak party and behind them the so called Beiteynu country are declaring a war to our Holy Empire"
- "Please give an example of where we have proposed war with with Luthori. On the contrary we can give a number of examples of where we have argued against war and even trade sanctions.

* "by directly interfering in our politics"
- "This bill is the first time we have ever commented on Luthori legislation. Contrastingly your party has on several occasions interfered with Beiteynuese politics."

* "they want to isolate our party by creating nonsense bills"
- "Please give an example of any bill we have proposed that refers to your party."

"As we have continuously maintained we, and the majority of the Knesset of Beiteynu, are not in favour of any form of direct action against the Holy Luthori Empire or the CDNC as a party. All we ask is that the CDNC respect international law and recognise our sovereignty as a state, as the rest of Terra has done. There can be no justification for war from either one of our nations and there can be no justification for either of us to attempt to "rule" the other. All we wish for as a state and as an individual party is peace, stability and prosperity, we would ask that you would allow us to pursue these aims without fear of mindless attacks and insults. Thank you."

-- Avidan Matusevitch

Date10:56:45, November 02, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageWhat kind of isolence is this? Commenting 3 TIMES in our legislature, this is a very very clear agression to our soverignty, and shall be stopped right now!!!!

Date09:52:06, November 03, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageThis is a clear message to Beyteinu and the two parties concerned: Our Legilslature, UNANIMOUSLY, rejected and condemned your very clear agression on our Holy Empire and Emperor.
We thank the patriotism and nationalism of all the parties, NSAP, NRP, LNLF, UOG, LCUP and ILP.
Now that we passed this resolution, i would ask our brothers in the LCUP, as having the ministry of Defence and Foreign Affairs, about the possible coming acts. We will offer all kind of support for any step, and we will put all our forces in our Private Militia, that i already talked to about, in the hands of the Ministry of Defence.
Replies are preferred to be in private messges or in the Nation messages due to continuous spying of the Maavak and CZP.

Yours in Christ
General Secretariat of the CDNC, with the greetings of the Chairman of the CDNC.

Date15:27:14, November 03, 2007 CET
FromAm Echad, Pays Libre
ToDebating the Insolence
MessageI am praying just like you my fellow christian has said to. But we pray for a biblical land to be back. A land that honors the Jewish people for who they are. Romans tells us that they are holy and that it is only our sin that calls them evil. We as christians must protect the Jews not hurt them When you hurt them all you hurt is god.

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote Seats
yes
       

Total Seats: 99

no

    Total Seats: 0

    abstain
     

    Total Seats: 6


    Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve.

    Random quote: "An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." - H. L. Mencken

    This page was generated with PHP
    Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
    Queries performed: 67